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Are they against change in general, or certain kinds of change? Remember when social media was seen as near universal good kind of progress? Not so much now.

Social media has never been seen as a universal positive force? It's the same with AI. It has good and bad aspects as does any technology that has an impact on this scale, AI will arguably have a much bigger impact imo.

People are generally against change that forces them to change the way they used to do things. I'm sure most will have their reasons why they are against this particular change, but I don't think it will affect anything. The genie is out of the bottle, AI is here to stay. You either adapt or you will slowly wither away.


It reminds me of something I read on mastodon: "genie doesn't go back in the bottle say AI promoters while the industry spends a trillion dollars a year to try to keep the genie out of the bottle"

Do you think the genie will go back in the bottle and why?

It's certainly possible. All that is required is for AIs to become more expensive than humans. Developing projects on a $100 Claude Code subscription is a lot of fun. I bet people would simply go back to hiring human developers if that subscription cost $10,000 instead.

Adapting implies you are still a part of the environment though. AI is on a trajectory to replace you and take you out of the environment.

AI is on a trajectory to replace people who do not effectively use AI with people that do

That is the bait and switch. The end goal is that you are out of the equation. Your perceived effectiveness at using AI as an exchange of labor diminishes over time to the point that you become irrelevant.

Who has that end goal?? Who is going to direct the AI if only the CEO is left in the organization? The CEO will never actually do it , and will always need someone who can and will do it. I just can’t see a grand plan to take humans out of the equation entirely.

that most definitely is a plan, make no mistake about it. but as mike tyson famously said, “every has a plan until they get punched in a mouth” :)

this is certainly a possibility but human beings and societies as a whole adapt

> Social media has never been seen as a universal positive force?

You missed the whole arab spring thing?


If you selectively read one sentence of my comment, you risk missing the forest for the trees. I don't have any particular knowledge on the arab spring so I won't comment on that but I quite clearly said that technology has good and bad aspects to it.

Is it meant as sarcasm?

This is like blaming a knife as being a killer weapon. Social media is inherently good if owners of the platforms allow for good interactions to take place. But given the mismatch between incentives alignment, we don't have nice things.

Social media is good if owners allow for good is an example of the logical fallacy "begging the question"

Also blaming the tool for the crime is some sort of fallacy. I don't know name you can ask AI.

So less than 0.03% of the national debt?

Just need a giant worm god to put us on the right path.

"Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them." - Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam, Dune

I don't trust the authorities to use information just for public safety and against legitimate criminal activity (in part because legitimate crime needs to be decided legally in court not just because of police suspicion).

There's too many examples where they've abused information for harassment, dubious arrests and prosecutions. And this can be systematic not just a few bad apples here and there.

We've already seen this with how ICE has conducted itself with more funding and surveillance.


Serial killers are rare and limited in how many people they can realistically kill. We already have governments in the world who use increasing surveillance technology to crack down on public dissent and persecute minorities. Or pursue their war aims in other countries.

I wonder whether The Walking Dead ever did episodes with a surviving Amish community among it's many spinoffs. Potential problem for them is being outgunned by any aggressive community nearby.

Central PA is the land of guns and chocolate.

that said, I wouldn't be surprised if the Amish already have a small stockpile for practical use cases like hunting and keeping away the English


The Amish are generally pacifist.

Because it's becoming another Middle East quagmire which the American public has very little patience for, and it's bad for Wall Street, bad for prices at the pump, and bad for the global economy.

Then why was Trump threatening their annihilation prior to accepting the ceasefire around their proposal?

A complete regime change would probably only come with a large scale invasion, bigger than Iraq's. A huge majority of Americans don't want that.

Or with their people rising up, which is I think what the US and Israel were hoping for - though they didn’t seem to plan for a way to actually make it happen.

We will see what happens at the end of this war when people come out of their homes to a crumbling country. They could decide that enough is enough and bring in some change.

Without arms, it is probably impossible for the people to take back their country.

We take the Second Amendment for granted here in the US - but the lack of a similar thing in Iran is what will keep the civilian population under the regime's control - or else another 10k-30k+ massacre.


I was wondering why we aren't considering the Liberator pistol v2.

Getting collectively bombed tends to have a unifying effect. If anything, bombing a populace would decrease the risk of an uprising that supports the bombers.

How would you feel if your city was being bombed by a hostile foreign nation, including a school full of kids? Magnanimous toward the attackers?


Yeah they will come out of their homes and decide that we should acquiesce to Israel because enough is enough. How’d that go with the Palestinians? In the real world, Israel’s abhorrent behavior unites these populations /against/ them. Your logic is in a fantasy realm.

Because the escalation Trump was talking about would have wrecked the ME with Iran's retaliation on desalination plants, oil infrastructure, power plants, etc. Which would have been a massive shock to the global economy, along with a large humanitarian crisis inside of Iran and it's neighbors.

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