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Sorry to hear that. I'm not sure what's causing this. Could you share your Windows and VS Code version to help us reproduce the issue?

sm-agent.exe is supposed to be started as a subprocess by the extension. It shouldn't be in its own window.


Windows 11, VS Code 1.86.2

At no point have I been asked to enter license details, is that supposed to happen when it initially runs?


It is working for me but I always see a window for sm-agent.exe. W10 22H2 VS Code 1.86.2


Sorry. We should be more clear about the CC being required to sign up for the free trial.


This goes against the guidelines for "Show HN". You can still post it, but generally it won't qualify for the Show HN moniker. You can review the rules for Show HN here: https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html

> Please make it easy for users to try your thing out, ideally without barriers such as signups or emails.

"Without signups or emails" definitely implies without credit card authorization!


I didn't realize that. I would have posted without the Show HN tag if I had read that carefully.


I can understand the business imperatives (I am a PM at a start-up :)), but can you please make a decision on actually having the sign up flow work without friction (Think Slack / dropbox etc). You can always iterate and find the right thing to charge for but developers are a demanding bunch especially with tooling!


How about just not having one? i am often interested to try things but I am not giving out my CC until I've tried it out, FOMO be damned. I don't want the burden of cancellation if I decide it's not for me, I've been burned before by forgetting and paying for a service I didn't want.


We think this is the most sustainable option because there is a cost to providing a quality service. We take a small loss on every user who cancels their free trial - more than a typical SaaS because AI models are expensive to serve.


Maybe a shorter trial would work?

Personally I only need about 30 minutes with a code autocompletion LLM to see if it will do what I want without pissing me off (and maybe even making me smile!)


Crossing your fingers that the user forgets to cancel is never "sustainable", it's predatory.


How about taking the CC but not subscribing the user. As in the CC is used only to verify the user but I have to subscribe once I consume my free credits (even though the CC is on file).


I'm VERY interested in using your service and would be happy to pay if it's good.

I'm never going to try if you ask for my CC up front though. Sorry.


I'm happy to hear that. I don't have any specific plans for same.energy at the moment other than to keep the site up.


Glad to hear it. We'll add an IntelliJ plugin next week.

We may add a chat feature if we can make one good enough that we're happy with the quality.


A chat plugin for VS Code will be a game changer.


Neovim? :)


All the processing happens in the cloud. It will upload the git repository you use it on. We retain the data for a maximum of 7 days.


Your privacy policy[0] doesn't seem to mention any of this. How is the data being used? I'm not very certain about inputting my data into any tool that uploads to cloud and there's no valid privacy policy

[0] https://supermaven.com/privacy-policy


> Our Services may contain links to third-party websites or services that are not owned or controlled by Supermaven, Inc. We are not responsible for the privacy practices or the content of third-party websites.

Is this actually good enough? Can companies just hand over data to other companies and then claim to not be responsible for the consequences of that?


We should update the site to be clearer about this. There is a 7-day data retention limit listed in https://supermaven.com/pricing.


Do you train and/or refine your models based on customer source code?


This is the main thing keeping me from trying it. If you could clarify how you protect and use our code, it would be a huge help.


Please clarify what the data is used for.


I had the idea for the technology first and decided that code completion was the application where it would be the most useful. It's a proven market with Copilot having over $100M ARR.

There are lots of other potential use cases for the technology, but they involve more business risk (ie, the risk that you create a technically sound product that isn't very useful).


Thanks, this should be fixed shortly.


It's difficult to solve an issue like this without steps that can be used to reproduce the issue.

Here is a similar issue where someone provided instructions to reproduce the problem, which allowed me to fix the issue: https://github.com/zxqfl/TabNine/issues/43.


As far as I can tell, it suggests one token at a time and uses its model to help rank these tokens. This is useful, but there is a lot to be gained by suggesting multiple tokens at once.

TabNine has always included a logistic regression model to help rank completions. It uses features such as the occurrence frequency of the token and the number of similar contexts in which it occurs.


Intellisense also outputs multiple suggestions.

Also, TabNine mentions they are using transformers, which is not logistic regression. The context will be inferred using attention.


Sorry, I worded that poorly. What I mean is that each individual suggestion consists of a single token -- at least, that is what I see in https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/services/intellicode/. Compare the videos in https://tabnine.com/blog/deep, where most suggestions consist of multiple tokens.

Deep TabNine (announced today) uses transformers. TabNine (released last year) uses logistic regression.


Interesting, thanks.


Yep. We will start by offering it to enterprises. We may extend it to individuals if we can offer it for sufficiently low cost.


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