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>due to the disinformation risk. >Just look at the Romanian election: A couple of hours ago they annulled the first election round, after a coordinated Russian campaign managed to propel a rather unknown pro-Russian candidate to the top, where they used platforms like TikTok to influence voters.

What you've described so far isn't disinformation but something more like illegal campaigning. This and disinformation both happen on platforms owned by the countries they're effecting (Facebook in 2016 with Trump). US shareholders benefiting doesn't really stop it.


Illegal tactics, it sounds like. Elections have rules. Breaking them to give someone an advantage is rigging it, no?


Rigging is a direct action on the election itself. Like removing ballots that were valid, submitting and accepting ballots of ineligible voters or straight fake them, blocking groups of people from voting (e g. blocking roads to voting polls), straight changing the numbers etc.

I see a distinction because all of the above are still happening in many countries, and there is a degree of illegality that is way above simple conning.

There's the other situations where people feel under threat of direct violence if they vote the wrong way. Perhaps there would be a different term for that altogether.


Do Russia and China have laws preventing their governments from interfering in other countries’ elections? If this all happened online, I’m pretty sure Romanian laws don’t apply.


It's not like they made the dead vote. They just used an unregulated vector of appealing to the electorate in a better way than the opponent did. I'm not saying it's not not rigging, as that's definitely the intent, but let's not turn a blind eye to what is an obvious thing



Which is why we need to legislate away the billionaire.


What a sad state of affairs when people who consider themselves educated enough to opine about what newspapers should and should not do clearly has no historical understanding or basic familiarity with newspapers.


They're not really saying Bezo or Musk are acting illogically. He's lamenting everyone who has set with their heads buried in the sand and pretended they aren't doing the things they're doing.


Not really, there was no proof, just speculation with no evidence. In this case there is plenty of evidence that Bezos put his finger on the scale. See the editor resigning and likely there will be others to follow. He said he was hands off when he bought it, but here we are.


But it is not. They regularly make endorsements and call outs. They recently called for Biden to step down from the ticket, just months ago. It seems like we should not examine situations based on idealistic, non-existent scenarios but the world we actually live in.


>Did someone run the tables and find that obese people are dying too quickly to end up with medical bills?

Genuinely would not be surprised if this does increase medical costs for society as a whole. Obesity related deaths seem like they're more likely to be sudden compared to what might get you if you live longer.


Most of the advertising I've seen has been from weight loss clinics or online pharmacies that will get you the prescription and perhaps sell you a compounded version rather than the Novo Nordisk or Eli Lilly advertising their glp1.


>I take tirzepatide

Same. Down 80. Healthy weight for the first time since I was a child. Taking this has led me to feeling less shame about my previous weight and that maybe a lot of this discipline you talk about might also be some of our biology just being not super compatible with modernity. I've personally gone from feeling a bit like a fat cat who you have to take the bowl away from to one who just eats responsibly. Wouldn't really be an issue for the cat in the wild or us 100 years ago. But here we are needing to take away our own bowls. Maybe it really just isn't as easy for some of us.


>> our biology just being not super compatible with modernity.

This! our body through millions of years of evolution is just not built for an abundance of easy to obtain dense caloric food, while living in relative leisure. It just isn't.

CICO proponents don't understand you are asking an individual to fight millions of years of evolution with self-discipline.


Once you lose the weight it is critical to get fit, because you won't have the same amount of weight stressing your connective tissue.

Besides all the other benefits of exercise, it will help keep the weight off. You can't stay on ozempic forever.


Fitness is absolutely important. One thing I've found is that it's not just physically easier to do that work but mentally easier as I approached a healthy number on the scale.


You can’t / shouldn’t however my beef with the compounders is that they encourage people to stay dependent via maintenance doses once they reach their goal weight.


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