Sure and file names are state & attribute containers too. A URL is a uniform resource locator. You can hack it, of course, but this is no less kludgy than overloading filename. It is never ceases to amaze me seeing the recylcing of good and bad idea in this field.
For those interested, did some digging regarding Phillip Mazzei. Surprisingly it is very difficult to find his essays online, considering that he is the one who first uttered the expression "all men are created equal".
The anonymous essay that WaPo cites in the OP proved impossible to find online...(!?)
No. Subjective reality is what we experience as sentients. There must be an object reality and imho that is the only statement of truth that can be uttered in language, with "language" to be understood in the sense that Werner Hisenberg uses that term.
So I'm with Bohr, Hisenberg on this matter. We can not 'presume' to speak of the Real with capital R. It exists but it can not be 'encompassed'.
No vision can encompass Him, but He encompasses all vision. Indeed, He Is the Most Subtle, the All-Aware! - Qur'an - 6.103
Leave out the quran quote since that is most definitely not what Bohr/Heisenberg/Others mean when they talk about subjectivity/observation/measurement. See my comment here - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45759220
If you want to discuss Philosophical/Ontological/Epistemological concepts of Reality/Truth etc. there are far better models in Hindu/Buddhist scriptures. The submitted article itself refers to Nagarjuna's Sunyata and Madhyamaka Buddhist philosophy.
The quote seems perfectly fine in illustrating the idea that reality will always transcend our language or thought (to the extent that can be expressed in any language).
And if you appreciate Hindu scripture, that particular quote could have been lifted almost verbatim from the Upanishads.
I don't appreciate the dogmatism that is associated with a lot of orthodox Islam either, but this is something similar to a lot of conservative religious outlooks, as you can find among people identifying as Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, etc. But in fact this particular quote can be seen as antithetical to any such dogmatic position, and it's worthwhile to recognize points of agreement even though you might disagree in other areas.
I find your chauvinism is what doesn't belong to HN. Bohr was familiar with Eastern scriptures so it is perfectly understandable as to why he would reference its formulations. I happen to familiar with both and I do not see any discrepency or antagonism in these scriptures. You may not benefit with such comments but it is possible that others will find it useful and informative.
I dislike unnecessary religiosity being dragged in where there is no reason for it.
> I happen to familiar with both
I don't think you are. No Quantum Physicist has ever quoted anything from Quran since there is nothing there (it is the youngest of all religions being only from 7th century AD) which has not been already elaborated in Hindu/Buddhist/Greek/Chinese/Christian philosophies/worldviews. That is why most scientists quoted from those ancient scriptures. There is no need to try and hoist your opinions on them.
Moreover the article specifically mentions Carlo Rovelli drawing inspiration from Nagarjuna's Buddhist philosophy and hence that is the model we should look at to try and understand what he means (and not drag in all and sundry others).
What is this, childish echolalia? The "religiosity" was right there in your totally unnecessary quote.
> How could you possibly know?
By inferring from your comment(s), duh!
> And frankly, with that handle, it seems you are the one with a "religious" issue.
What does this even mean? If you are referring to the passage i quote in my HN profile, that is the opposite of "any religiosity". Read the cited book for edification.
Quoting the Quran in a positive light is like doing the same with Mein Kampf, except that Islam has caused a lot more deaths over the years. I'd say it's yours that doesn't belong on HN.
If you are going to attack the sacred text of two billion people, it would be better to avoid a lazy comparison to Hitler. Have you read the Quran? Do you understand the historical roots from which it emerged? Do you know how it had been used and abused? What is the relationship between modern science and islam? How has it been used to justify violence? How has it been to argue for peace? Have the people who have used it to justify violence understood the original meaning? How does the violence/body count compare to other dogmatic religions, especially christianity?
There is violence in every ideology. To deny this is to deny reality. Singling out one group as uniquely prone to violence is both uncivil and dangerous in my view. That does not mean that one cannot point out the shadow side, but one should look in the mirror of one's one preferred ideology, whether that is christianity, atheism, scientism, nationalism, rationalism, etc., before casting blanket aspersions at others.
> Do you understand the historical roots from which it emerged?
Justification of one of the biggest, fastest, and most brutal conquests in history? Because everybody who wasn't a Muslim was fair game for killing or slavery? Because all non-Muslim land really belongs to the Muslims?
That's what it actually says.
> Singling out one group as uniquely prone to violence is both uncivil and dangerous in my view.
Something that I very clearly didn't do. And there was nothing lazy about my comparison.
Anyone who asks for this volume, to read, collate, or copy from it, and appropriates to himself or herself, or cuts anything out of it, should realize that (s)he will have to give answer before God's awesome tribunal as if (s)he had robbed a sanctuary. Let such a person be held anathema and receive no forgiveness until the book is returned. So be it, Amen! And anyone who removes these anathemas, digitally or otherwise, shall himself receive them in double.
You mean lab test it in a clininal environment where the actual participants are not in danger of self-harm due to an LLM session? That is fine but that is not what we are discussing, or where we are atm.
Individuals and companies with mind boggling levels of investment want to push this tech into every corner of our lives and and the public are the lab rats.
In 'Three Days of Condor', Robert Redford's character locates the hotel room of a professional hitmat (who is after him) by going to a locksmith and asking him "which hotel and room this key belongs to?" and the locksmith asks him "are you in the trade?" and he responds, "No, but I read a lot".
It's a serious hacker film, actually. Redford is the ultimate hacker in that film: social engineering, picking locks, scrambling MaBell's circuits, and taking out the bad guys in the CIA.
I have to disgree here regarding the film's merit. There are a few quite interesting (and unique) films in that genre from the 70s that are little known to today's audiances. Most came out around Watergate ~'74 (so were topical in those days) but then have been kind of memory holed.
The Kremlin Letter, 1970 (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065950/) - I recall someone saying this film really shows the ugly underbelly of intelligence services. This is an interesting film but it is very dark and somewhat disturbing. This one predates Watergate - it is a Cold War spy flick and makes Smiley's People look warm and cuddly ..
The Conversation, 1974 (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071360/) - Gene Hackman's character resurfaces a couple decades later in Enemy of the State (1998).
"memory holed" implies a deliberate coordinated attempt by the mass media and/or powerful actors to suppress some information they don't want knocking around the ether
Those comments were made in an information regime that severly censored contrary expert opinion. We had experts in various related field who were automatically labeled as cranks simply because they disagreed with the social engineering experiment and test run of various social control mechanisms (worldwide ..).
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