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> I see that you hold the belief that consenting adults willingly working are being forced to do so ...

No, I don't believe that.

I was pointing out that employment contracts are usually not between two consenting adults. They are usually between a consenting adult and a consenting corporation. I never implied any party is forced to do anything here.


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Please don't be condescending. I obviously know that corporations are not made of aliens. Corporations are not made of a group of people, which is precisely my point. With a corporation or conglomeration, the dynamics of negotiation usually becomes very different from what it is when you negotiate with a single consenting adult.

I did not elaborate this further and I am still not elaborating a lot here because these things were obvious.

For example, imagine negotiating a job offer with a single person client vs. negotiating a job offer with a large company. I think it is obvious that the negotiation dynamics are very different in both cases.

Depending on the situation, it may be easy to walk away from the first job but not so from the second job. Things like a large company would pay for my health insurance, would offer more job security, would offer me internal transfer, etc. make it a little more difficult to walk away from it. The fact that jobs in large corporations may appear lucrative to many people also puts the corporations in a position of more power where they can afford to negotiate unfairly with some people and still remain in business.


Maybe you have been conditioned by your own luck to believe everybody actually has a choice


Point me to anyone who has had a gun pointed at them to be forced to take a job and I will agree with you.


The parent comment never implied that anyone was forced to take a job at gun point. Why are you putting words into our mouths?

The parent comment implies that not everybody has a choice. This is true and this is not necessarily the same thing as being forced to take a job, much less at gun point.


> The parent comment implies that not everybody has a choice.

That's where we disagree I guess, I think you always have a choice unless force is being used against you (such as in rape, murder, armed theft etc).


You don't have a choice when every corporate in your city would try to lowball prospective employees belonging to a certain class into accepting a lower than market rate salary.


I'm not seeing anyone forcing anyone or removing choice from anyone in your argument.


> Point me to anyone who has had a gun pointed at them to be forced to take a job and I will agree with you.

This was your earlier comment. You were responding to another comment (not mine) where you were seeing someone was forced to take a job although nothing like that was implied in the parent comment.




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