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Magpies' brain power may be boosted by living in larger groups (abc.net.au)
43 points by a_bonobo on Feb 8, 2018 | hide | past | favorite | 9 comments



> The idea is the larger the group, the more relationships you have to maintain, said the study's lead author Ben Ashton of the University of Western Australia.

> "So not only do you have to remember all these individuals, but you have to remember your relationship with them and how to behave appropriately with them," Dr Ashton said.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's less the direct mental workload of managing a larger social graph, but instead the greater chance to learn and push themselves (particularly at a younger age) as they are exposed to more ways of approaching problems from more peers.


Competition as well. It can make people (and animals apparently) rise to the occasion.


Note that the Australian magpie is a completely different bird from the old world magpie. They're not particularly closely related.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_magpie


There is also the Auatralian Murray Magpie, which is another name for the Magpie-lark and is also not the bird in thr article.


Don't they assume a causal relationship? Maybe those groups are bigger because they're smarter (and they get food/other resources more effeciently).


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To understand how learning plays out as birds age, the scientists also tested 21 juvenile birds in the groups at 100 days after leaving the nest, and again at 200 and 300 days.

While the youngest birds didn't exhibit any difference in their results, a pattern started to emerge at 200 days.

"This suggests the social environment has an effect on cognitive development," Dr Ashton said.

"It's not purely a genetic thing, there must be some kind of environmental factor at play."

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Seems like a positive feedback loop would be the most likely explanation if a correlation does exist.


My first thought was of the hive mind of rats from Planescape Torment


  brain power
  boosted
These are vague terms. The birds seem smarter, however I think this would indicate little more than what can be observed in feral children, as compared to children raised in tribal circumstances or better.

Social exposure leads to imitation and collectivized learning. The innate intellect doesn’t change, but the limitations are expanded, since discovery can be diversified and not everyone needs to be an autodidact across every specialized skill.




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