> It's not "Engineer thinks PM is a bozo", it's a post explaining a very concrete, objectively negative
> behaviour from the PM team. I've worked at companies where that sort of behaviour was rampant, I've worked
> at places where it wasn't, and the difference in the end product is palpable.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of dismissing complains by saying that its normal for engineering to think that way about PM. There are different mindsets involved and it is definitely normal for them not to see eye to eye all of the time. It is also normal for them to want to prioritize things differently and there are some delicate balancing acts to be played between meeting legitimate engineering needs and pragmatically driving a product forward.
But sometimes, the PM really is causing problems by preventing those things from happening or by getting in the way of his own objectives.
> behaviour from the PM team. I've worked at companies where that sort of behaviour was rampant, I've worked
> at places where it wasn't, and the difference in the end product is palpable.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of dismissing complains by saying that its normal for engineering to think that way about PM. There are different mindsets involved and it is definitely normal for them not to see eye to eye all of the time. It is also normal for them to want to prioritize things differently and there are some delicate balancing acts to be played between meeting legitimate engineering needs and pragmatically driving a product forward.
But sometimes, the PM really is causing problems by preventing those things from happening or by getting in the way of his own objectives.