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Chargers have been getting noticeably more busy over the last year (bay area). It's pretty absurd at this point that we are relying on private companies like Whole Foods to build public transportation infrastructure. The state really needs to get on top of this and start building out more level 3.


>It's pretty absurd at this point that we are relying on private companies like Whole Foods to build public transportation infrastructure.

Most (maybe all?) gas stations are privately owned, how is this different?


Probably because gas stations and EV chargers have very different logistics and modalities. For example, you could realistically put an electrical outlet by every parking space, but doing that with gas pumps would be completely untenable.


I know this was just an example of how they're different, but this particular feature should make EV chargers easier for the market to supply relative to gas stations.


A gas pump by every parking spot is probably easier at scale. Manufacturing costs would scale down significantly, and a plastic gas pipe is cheaper than a copper wire.

We don't do it because a gas car refuels fast enough that you don't need it.


How about the cost for the nozzle, the pump, and all the safety equipment you need to stop an oopsie from turning into a kaboom?


Let's not forget vapor recovery systems for all these gas spickets in California


Yeah, we can have a pump. And a gas pipe.

But they do not make fuel. Did you forget the massive underground fuel tank though? Or even worse, gasoline pipes?

We just need a 220v outlet. That's it. The charging station is welcome but EV owners already carry their own (not all support 220v but that's an easy fix)


"just a 220 outlet" is not easy. It is a 220 outlet, but we also need large wires to each outlet.


Each car in a city requires alot of parking spaces I've read 4-10 empty parking spaces per car. This would mean that every car owner would need to pay for that many charging stations.


So far they've preferred providing incentives through tax policy - worked for residential solar installations.

The land in popular destinations (shopping plazas, malls, large corporate offices) is privately or municipally owned, the state cannot just barge in.

This is a good list of current California incentives https://www.chargepoint.com/products/station-incentives/


Government hasn't historically been the one building parking spots. See the history around mandatory parking minimums, like from this video from Vox:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akm7ik-H_7U


So... force non-EV owners to subsidize your driving choice?




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