I do actually often think twice about accepting a state fund such as from the Sa...

lostmyoldone · on Oct 16, 2018

That argument you put forth is entirely without substance as far as I can tell, and probably shouldn't have been made at all.

One of your examples is ongoing, the other is not.

One could change the future, the other can't change anything except other car markers margins.

One could be justified, the other can not.

I could make a much longer list, but I hope you get the gist.

miketery · on Oct 16, 2018

What are you smoking. Germany has accepted their past, and has moved forward to rebuild and establish an advanced and civilized society.

EGreg · on Oct 16, 2018

One could say that the Saudis have moved on from spreading wahhabism and funding terrorists as well, regretted their mistakes spreading an intolerant ideology, and are now much nicer.

But I guess the kingdom is still permeated with Sunni Islam and they are willing to bomb the crap out of Yemen so it won’t fall into Shiite Houthis’ hands.

toomuchtodo · on Oct 16, 2018

> One could say that the Saudis have moved on from spreading wahhabism and funding terrorists as well, regretted their mistakes spreading an intolerant ideology, and are now much nicer.

They executed an American permanent resident journalist, Jamal Khashoggi, in one of their consulates on foreign soil within the last two weeks, and failed at the cover up [1].

[1] https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/15/middleeast/saudi-khashoggi-de...

eveningcoffee · on Oct 16, 2018

Please note that I am not excusing the (alleged) murder but trying to put things into a perspective (for my self).

What if Jamal Khashoggi was a Ruhollah Khomeini of Saudi Arabia [0]?

That is, what if it was not about wahhabism but about self preservation?

[0] https://spectator.us/2018/10/jamal-khashoggi

aaronbrethorst · on Oct 16, 2018

MbS: First of all, this Wahhabism—please define it for us. We’re not familiar with it. We don’t know about it.
Goldberg: What do you mean you don’t know about it?
MbS: What is Wahhabism?
Goldberg: You’re the crown prince of Saudi Arabia. You know what Wahhabism is.
MbS: No one can define this Wahhabism.
Goldberg: It’s a movement founded by Ibn abd al-Wahhab in the 1700s, very fundamentalist in nature, an austere Salafist-style interpretation—

MbS: No one can define Wahhabism. There is no Wahhabism.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/04/mo...