I was referencing the response from their doctor, where they have 24/7 doctors at their factory.
I'm not sure if this answer is in anything posted, however: 1) is that claim of someone with a "crushed spine denied an ambulance" proven, and 2) is "because it would've shown up on OSHA logs" proven as Tesla's reasoning, or just conjecture and/or speculation?
Likewise, why aren't people addressing that maybe an ambulance being called as the triggering something added to OSHA logs is incomplete or badly designed - and because Tesla has doctors on staff/on-site 24/7 for workers to go to first, maybe a visit to doctors should actually be the trigger adding the event to logs? Maybe the process is broken, but requiring an ambulance be called for a sprained wrist - if they trained doctors on staff to access the situation isn't reasonable, it certainly is an emotional reaction they're triggering in people though.
"Also, this report was done by one of the most respectable investigative news organisations in the world."
I've never heard of them and likewise - is this specific journalist (and perhaps the editor) known and associated with any awards the journal received?
> I'm not sure if this answer is in anything posted, however: 1) is that claim of someone with a "crushed spine denied an ambulance" proven, and 2) is "because it would've shown up on OSHA logs" proven as Tesla's reasoning, or just conjecture and/or speculation?
1) The source is named, and to be included in the article would've likely provided medical records backing up his assertions. Not to mention the fact that Tesla (which has previously demonstrated its willingness to go the media to try and discredit former employees) has not denied his claims.
2) There are multiple sources in the article that mention being taught by lawyers how to deny care in a way that avoids legal requirements to log incidents.
> I've never heard of them and likewise
That says more about you than the source, Reveal has broken a number of extremely important stories and won many awards for doing so.
> is this specific journalist (and perhaps the editor) known and associated with any awards the journal received?
You could've just clicked on the author's bio, but yes. "His reporting with a partner and CNN exposed rampant fraud in California's drug rehab system for the poor, winning an Investigative Reporters and Editors Award."
Okay, so what was hypocritical and immature about it? Please see bji's other responses in this thread, and perhaps mine, to get a fuller picture. If you have a strong argument point then perhaps you can make me aware of hypocrisy and immaturity - I hope you do so if it's true so I can learn, albeit and alas, most people don't put that effort in and instead make a quick response of simply sharing a loose feeling without deeper critical analysis to understand the situation and feelings in depth; this is in part a problem with the lack of tone in text.
I was pointing out their ignoring of the main point of my responses, and pointing out their put down; pointing out a lack of intellectual integrity isn't a put down, whereas saying simply because I haven't heard of a source "says more about me than the source" is nonsensical. Likewise, letting them know I'm done engaging with them is better IMHO than "ghosting" them. How is there integrity in a conversation if someone simply uses put downs and ignores the one main countering point to a proposed solution? Perhaps a gentler or kinder way to put it is they're lacking intellectual honesty - in order to try to prove a point, and backing that up/reenforcing that with a put down.
I'm not sure if this answer is in anything posted, however: 1) is that claim of someone with a "crushed spine denied an ambulance" proven, and 2) is "because it would've shown up on OSHA logs" proven as Tesla's reasoning, or just conjecture and/or speculation?
Likewise, why aren't people addressing that maybe an ambulance being called as the triggering something added to OSHA logs is incomplete or badly designed - and because Tesla has doctors on staff/on-site 24/7 for workers to go to first, maybe a visit to doctors should actually be the trigger adding the event to logs? Maybe the process is broken, but requiring an ambulance be called for a sprained wrist - if they trained doctors on staff to access the situation isn't reasonable, it certainly is an emotional reaction they're triggering in people though.
"Also, this report was done by one of the most respectable investigative news organisations in the world."
I've never heard of them and likewise - is this specific journalist (and perhaps the editor) known and associated with any awards the journal received?