You made not need redux! Found lot's of projects where they plug redux an turns the project a completly mess. (connected components everywhere), actions to manage local component ui state..
You're right Dan, this is a great framework, but the code complexity behind it is insane. Of course a lot of that complexity is due to HTML/browser, we cannot ignore that.
However, part of that complexity is the fault of React. The choice of HOC vs. Component... two ways to do the same thing. There is also FastForm vs. Form. As we move on over time, now we have hooks being added as well. The mental complexity just to put a simple input on a page is overwhelming.
I think what I'm looking for is React to take some ownership and provide guidance out of the box for these core browser features under the React umbrella.
> I think what I'm looking for is React to take some ownership and provide guidance out of the box for these core browser features under the React umbrella.
So we need React on Rails? An opinionated collection of libraries that work on top on the React Runtime. I personally find this idea compelling.
There are a few of these sorts of things already. I'm not really talking about opinionated frameworks (or collections of various github projects stuff into a big meta project). https://reactjs.org/community/starter-kits.html
What I'm talking about is something more akin to this statement:
https://angular.io/guide/forms-overview "Handling user input with forms is the cornerstone of many common applications"
But isn't that something React wants to avoid? I remember reading somewhere that React does not want to recommend any approach to forms, routing, etc., but leave it to the user.
I mean, I don’t think it’s designed to “put an input on the page”. Tracking things like hover, dirty and pristine states, sync and async validation, etc, is an inherently complex problem.
If you just want to put an input on the page, that’s just three lines with React. (Especially with Hooks.)
I think redux is the only thing that can prevent a react project from becoming a mess: I’ve noticed that the major bug points in the app are where people try to use something else to manage state
