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Scientists say dolphins should be treated as 'non-human persons' (timesonline.co.uk)
15 points by ca98am79 on Jan 10, 2011 | hide | past | favorite | 6 comments



Did the scientists say why their opinion on moral matters is headline news?

I don't even disagree with them. It's just that whether something should be treated as a "non-human person" is a matter of values, and I don't think the common set of values around personhood has anything to do with intelligence. If you want it to, you need to change that first.


I agree with your first sentence.

I do disagree with them though. I don't think there is such a thing as a "non-human person" let alone applying it to the animal kingdom.

Edit: PETA must love it though


Then I think you agree with my entire comment. What I meant to get at is, my values and these scientists' values are both uncommon and non-normative, so they're pretty much irrelevant — most people don't care about the intellectual or emotional qualities of the creature in considering whether it's a person. The general heuristic is something along the lines of "Is it identifiably H. sapiens and alive?"


so, uh, would they be able to make contributions to political campaigns?



What does that mean anyway? We can't even come to an agreement on how to treat human persons.




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