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That doesn't scale terribly well for urls shared in a public space. How many subscriptions do I need? WaPo, NYT, Guardian, Financial Times, Medium, Boston Globe, LA Times, Scientific American, GQ, Epicurios, etc. Those folks should get together and offer a shared subscription model.



The economics have never really worked for a shared subscription model despite many attempts. Apple News+ is the most recent example.

So, yeah, if you regularly read more than the free allocation for each of those publications in a month, you should consider paying for them. Which ones you "need" is your call.


I get that it's maybe unsolvable. But in the narrow space of sharing urls on HN, downvoting complaints about paywalls feels silly to me.

They made their own bed, they can lie in it. I actively work around paywalls, and have ZERO guilt about it. Your business model failed, and I give zero shits. I want to know what's happening, and am willing to pay $10/month to to fix that across ALL of you that were affected. If you can't solve it entirely, I don't care. Take my $10/month, split it, and shut up or quit bitching.


I'm skeptical it would get noticed, but the kind of submission I want to happen: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21393799


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We don’t have a paywall. Whatever news sources you do or don’t pay doesn’t affect me. But thanks for noticing!


Ahh, yeah...thanks for the context. To me, if you have an aggresive paywall, then public moaning about globally sharing your useless urls is expected. Deal with it. The complainers and workarounders aren't the core problem.

Attention @dang and other HN admin people, this is a constant annoyance. It's time to deal with it. I totally get your position, and your limitations, but it happens EVERY DAY. It is NOT going away, and it's getting worse. It is very clearly making HN less useful.

Is there someone more infutiential than me that could post an "Ask HN" thread that people might rally around? Feeling enflamed, but not particularly influential. Alternatively, is there a way for me to msg @dang personally? (mentioned specifically because I personally applaud and respect his past history and responses)


You could just message hn@ycombinator.com, but 'dang to my knowledge is okay with paywalls, so I'm not sure if he would want to do anything.


Thanks for the direct contact point. Disappointed, though, at the implication. Why wouldn't HN care that paywalls were reducing their value in a big way? (my 'unlikely to succeed' rebuttle: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21393799)

I sent this to the email address you suggested:

"Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21393799

I wish to keep my relative anonmity as "tyingq" on HN, but feel pretty passionate about this submission:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21393799

I respect @dangs historical appreciation for real complaints, and would REALLY appreciate his reply and advice in the thread.

...with my full appreciation of your opinion and limitations... really.

I fully think the WHOLE community wants to know."


Not expecting it to gain traction, but what I wish HN was paying attention to: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21393799

Paywalls are honestly hurting HN, every day...really.




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