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For the record, in March 2018, 58 000 people died in Italy. We will see how many died this March 2020 :

http://demo.istat.it/index_e.html (see green section on the right, By Month)

Also the following study from August 2019 (before covid19) shows that Italy has more deaths due to influenza every year than any other EU country :

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S120197121...



> shows that Italy has more deaths due to influenza every year than any other EU country

I’ve read that if an elderly person dies in Italy while they have the flu or coronavirus, then that is recorded as the cause of death.

Some other countries put down other reasons like diabetes complications, or heart failure. Possibly due to pressure from insurance, or avoiding liability for iatrogenic diseases, or avoiding KPIs targeting lower death rates for infections in hospitals.

You are jumping to conclusions based on a few numbers, without understanding the background of where those numbers come from or how to validly compare them between countries.


What proves me that you understand them better than I do?


Nothing. But you are the one making conclusions based on some data series. If Italy is an outlier, are there papers about it?




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