Iam looking to build my own CO2 Meter for a while know. I even thought about making a little series as christmas presents.
My struggle always was to pick the right module. Its so hard to pick one and really trust it when you don't have a reference.
So i thought maybe i give this sensor a shot but i can't find a reputable source for it. Does someone knows where to buy it or uses another module that works good?
I'm fond of the Sensirion SCD30. Its low cost, low power, and easy to interface with. A lot of NDIR CO2 sensors pull 5V, so the sensirion's 3.3v power is nice. Digikey is currently out of them, but SparkFun has them in stock. Nice for hobbyists!
CO2meter.com is a good source for buying OEM CO2 sensors, although a little too coy with manufacturer's data sheets, in my opinion.
Virtually all NDIR CO2 sensors use some sort of automatic calibration, where the lowest reading in a certain period of time is assigned the value 450ppm. If that's accurate for your area and you can guarantee that the space the sensor is monitoring is unoccupied during that period of time, its not bad. Otherwise, a reference gas is the only way to really trust the readings.
i was shopping around last year as well. i finally went with `TFA Dostmann AirControl Mini CO2 Meter`, you can get the data pretty easily [1] if you connect it to a raspberry pi (or any linux system, really), so i'm currently pushing it through MQTT to my HomeAssistant.
i was really surprised when i started monitoring it how closely related my concentration is to the co2 ppa in my home.
This is a great device. We've never had windows open as much as since we have it, and believe me, it means a lot of headaches that go away every week without any coffee or paracetamol.
The next time we move house, proper ventilation is definitely one of the first things we'll check.
+1 for Sensirion's SCD30 [0], or even better when it comes out, SCD40.
I've tested a lot of different sensors and the SCD30 is more expensive than the Chinese sensors but in my experience it's much more accurate. The problem with all of these sensors is calibration. They naturally drift over time so you need some way to compensate for that. There are a few common approaches:
- Assume that every single day, the sensor is completely immersed in fresh air at some point - this is the way the MH-Z19 series of sensors works. It can make sense in business HVAC systems where it's common to do a fresh air purge every 24h but in a residential environment it's unreliable because there's no guarantee that a room will return to fresh air levels of CO2 (e.g. if a room only has 3-4h unoccupied and the windows aren't open, it might not return to 400ppm). To be clear, this isn't a problem unique to the Chinese sensors. There are also expensive sensors from major and reputable manufacturers that act this way, again, because it's common in commercial HVAC systems to do a daily fresh-air purge.
- The above but a bit more intelligent - this is the SCD30's method: it looks at the previous 7 days of data and only if there were at least 5 days where the baselines are within 50ppm of each other, treats the average of those baselines as the fresh air concentration. This makes it fantastic for residential applications. Even if your room's CO2 levels don't return to 400ppm every day, as long as they don't consistently return to another baseline, the auto-calibration cycle won't run and mess up your data.
- Manually do a baseline calibration every few months: make the user take the sensor outside into fresh air (or vent a building with fresh air) and tell the sensor "the CO2 concentration right now is 400ppm" - this is the only way the MH-Z19 and similar sensors can really be made anything close to accurate.
Also, make sure to avoid anything other than NDIR sensors. There are a lot of "eCO2" sensors that give you estimated CO2 levels based on VOCs, which always results in garbage readings.
Finally, you can usually buy the SCD30 very easily. It's routinely stocked by electronic component distributors so you can just look it up in OctoPart[1]. Make sure to avoid the eval kits though.
> it looks at the previous 7 days of data and only if there were at least 5 days where the baselines are within 50ppm of each other, treats the average of those baselines as the fresh air concentration.
Is that documented anywhere? I couldn't figure out why mine is reading garbage, it could be that it didn't see fresh air every day for a full week
The main public information is page 13 of the interface description [0]. I got some more specifics from Sensirion directly when I contacted them (the 50ppm minima thing in particular).
Not seeing fresh air for a week isn't enough to throw it off, it needs to not have seen fresh air for a week _and_ the baselines that it has seen have to be within 50ppm of each other.
Have you allowed it to calibrate even once? It needs 7d of uninterrupted power and daily fresh air for the initial calibration.
You can also do forced calibration against a known value using the process on page 14 of [0].
It can also give iffy results if the temperature/humidity values are totally out of whack, which could happen if it's put in an enclosure or something like that. You can set an offset using the instructions on page 15 of [0].
There's also altitude compensation but unless you're doing something really weird that shouldn't affect you so much.
Finally, there's sensor placement [1]. It shouldn't be placed in such a way that there's a lot of air flowing over it directly (e.g. exposed to the air). If it's in front of a fan or something it's going to do weird things.
I'd suggest placing it outside for a few minutes and see what the readings are. If they're far from 400ppm it definitely needs calibrating.
"There's also altitude compensation but unless you're doing something really weird that shouldn't affect you so much."
Disagree. I've moved co2 sensors between sea level and 2000m, and measured reference 400ppm gas and seen quite large differences (~150ppm). So it can matter. That's the reason why the SCD30 allows you to set an altitude or pressure.
But its not important enough to constantly feed it pressure data, a once-a-day pressure reading from the NWS would be sufficient.
So i thought maybe i give this sensor a shot but i can't find a reputable source for it. Does someone knows where to buy it or uses another module that works good?