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You're wrong. I have great respect for my country and its traditions, and would never sneer at it. I'm also not for any additional gun legislation.

But for a variety of reasons (some of them not "politically correct" by some measures, such as inner-city gang-related crime), the US has a high murder rate vis-a-vis other developed countries. It's a fact. And why wouldn't you compare a country to similar countries? Or OK, we could say, the US has a comparable murder rate to poor countries and war zones. Or compared to the median of all countries? Well, once again, much higher than the median (~3.5 vs ~5.0). Quantitatively, there's a great deal of support for saying we're "fairly violent". Not "really violent", but "fairly violent".

We were discussing sex and violence in American movies, and tieing it to real-life phenomena, so it seems like an appropriate topic.

I understand why you're disdainful of people who hate their own country, but you're picking the wrong target.



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