GGP was wondering why there were downvotes rather than comments detailing disagreements.

I decided to write down the reasons why I personally would not touch PHP again rather than give a downvote.

Maybe PHP8 or PHP7 or whatever it is (I know they skipped 6?) is awesome, but I've moved on.

Also, FWIW, a few of my objections are certainly still relevant based on the claims in GGP's post and some cursory review of the documentation, particularly around caching & in particular op caching.

> Do you judge all languages according to your experience from 8 years ago?

No, only ones that left mental-emotional scar tissue.

> Do you go on python boards telling everyone how much you hate working with python 2.7?

Python 2.7 was highly pleasant. I wouldn't use it now, but it didn't abuse me. :)

> Maybe spend your afternoon on rust threads to complain about it not being available to the public yet?

GGP: <X> is awesome for these reasons!

GGP: HEY! Why are people downvoting rather than commenting?

GP (me): Here's why your reasons don't persuade me based on my admittedly outdated experience

P: Why are you so critical?

> Do you need to like a language for 8 entire years before letting anyone know about it, or just some time within the past 8 years?

Non sequitur. But the answer is no.

Perhaps it might be more productive if someone commented which of my claims are obsolete rather than ad hominem them. I know that those relating to compilation, deployment & statelessness are still valid, given GGP's comments and my cursory examination of the PHP docs, plus experience with other platforms.

Maybe modern PHP has truly excellent performance. Maybe using a breakpoint debugger has been solved now. Maybe design is better, e.g. the standard lib has functions that can work with arrays as lists and arrays as dicts without being surprising (e.g., `filter()` used to preserve all indexes, since it treated arrays as dicts from numbers to values; often, you needed to use fold/reduce or a loop to re-number after a filter).