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The "just works" thing is unfortunately a thing of the past.



It's really... not. I've used MBPs for years (three generations of them) and they've literally (like, literally literally) Just Worked.

But I'm sure you'll find stats and horror stories that say otherwise, as if, somehow, Apple (or anyone) is capable of producing hardware and software that's impossible to break, never fails, and lasts forever.


I've been using Apple for a decade now and my experiences with the Apple Silicon machines reminded me of the Windows 95 -> Windows 2000 transition only with no way of actually getting things to work.

It does a lot of things right - especially sleep - however I'm constantly running into problems with buggy software which is unfixable because Apple don't do compatibility.

Also not having a battery which can be replaced or storage which can be user-upgraded is absolute garbage in 2022.

EDIT: if I was still a gamer I'd be laughing the MacBook out of the room.


> my experiences with the Apple Silicon machines ... however I'm constantly running into problems with buggy software which is unfixable because Apple don't do compatibility.

You're aware that the compatibility of any software (that's not Apple software) is the responsibility of the software vendor with regards to making it work on Silicon? Have I misunderstood you here? You can't actually expect Apple to just magically make code designed for one CPU architecture just work on another? There's kernel level translations you can do between opcodes, but that can't be expected to be perfect. The perfect solution is the vendor updates their software.


That's the attitude of Apple and the reason why you should never use Apple for anything mission-critical.

Microsoft on the other hand: Windows is literally full of work-arounds they added to ensure that new releases did not break existing software.

Apple at this point is FAR larger company than Microsoft was in the early 2000s. They're a goliath and should be more than capable of doing what Microsoft did.


I feel like then you are just not the target audience. I haven't had the need to replace storage or battery for a decade. In the early MBP it was nice to change the battery as they degraded quickly but now it just doesn't happen any more and even my old 2015 MBP is still working fine.

User upgradeable storage is a very niche feature.


Exactly. I can't remember the last time I ever WANTED to upgrade storage or a battery. Is that even a problem anymore? Maybe for some?


Meh, the last two that I've had:

2014 MBP: worked well for a couple of years, then developed a fault where it randomly half comes out of sleep, then gets very hot, even when closed in a bag.

2018 MBP: randomly completely crashes, with no warning whatsoever, roughly once a day.


2022 m1 macbook pro here - and i have one from work too. never had either crash, haven't plugged this one in for literally days, and right now i have an ide, vscode, ableton, slack, chrome with like 400 tabs in multiple windows and it's cool to the touch.

I think you'd like apple silicon macs.


I'm not sure of the point being made? Is it: manufacturing processes and software aren't perfect? And that only applies to Apple?


why do you say that? genuinely curious.




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