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> the most popular rapper/hip hop artist of all time

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[0] - https://iamyourtargetdemographic.com/2011/08/30/kanye-west-v...



This article is from 2011, but today on Spotify Eminem still has more monthly listeners than Kanye West (53M vs 51M). Eminem also has several songs that have over a billion streams (one with >1.5b), while Kanye has just one and it's at exactly 1b.

So yes, Eminem is still well ahead.


This discounts Kanye's production work as well and might discount many of his collaborations, but I expect Eminem to still have more listens on spotify.

However, in terms of influence on hip hop and pop music as a whole, I think Kanye is above Eminem and it's probably not close. Unfortunately, that's a lot harder to measure.


If we're talking overall influence, it's Dr. Dre and then everyone else can get far back in line.

Kanye likes to claim that his music wasn't about gangster rap and that's why he was sidelined for... a couple years... meanwhile, Dre not only made NWA and Snoop Dogg but managed to convince the entire rap world that a poor white kid with drug problems and abuse issues was the next huge thing by doing things that nobody had ever thought to do before.


Kanye’s 808 & Heartbreaks has been claimed by many rappers from the 2010’s and onwards to have been a major influence. He really went all in on autotune and introspective lyrics. I much prefer Dre but his influence is waning.


from the 2010’s and onwards

his influence is waning

The specific claim was "the most popular rapper/hip hop artist of all time". For that claim, I don't see a good reason why the last decade should weigh more heavily than the decades before.


The first time I remember hearing about Kanye was on Jay-Z's Black Album, "Kanyeezy you do it again, you a genius", the criticism lobbed against him in the early aughts was that he was a brilliant producer, but not a rapper, and then College Dropout came out, and changed that. It's really a shame to see all of this, Kanye is one of my favorite musicians of all time.


Kanye had tons of collabs as a producer and a huge influence on hip-hop artists to follow. It's not just about streams.


As is Eminem.


As a huge Eminem fan, 2011 was a good time to stop counting.

I love his stuff, Revival, Kamazake, Music to be Murdered by - I probably know 10 songs almost by heart.

But there's no denying that it's been a very different decade for Mathers and not everyone likes it.


Give him a couple of years more to include "Rap God."


Oh jeez, I forget that the LP 2 was released after 2010.


arguably the top. Probably no doubt he's in the top 5, which doesn't make any difference to the fundamental point.


This is a very dry comparison between the two, as it only looks at numbers. Is Nickelback has far better commercial success than Rage against the Machine, but I don't think most people would rate Nickelback higher than RATM. Stronger may be Kanye's best selling track, but it's his easily least influential.


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