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google/gmail is also one of the principal agents which declares by fiat "your own domain self-run mail is spam because I think its spam" which then propagates to other mail providers.

SPF/DKIM no matter: if they decide it's spammy, un-doing this decision is appeal to a star chamber you cannot interact with directly.




> which then propagates to other mail providers

Have you checked your mail server is configured properly and it doesn't act as open relay?

> SPF/DKIM no matter

SPF/DKIM is not enough, I needed DMARC and DNS PTR. You need static IP from some serious hosting, make sure IP is not black listed, dynamic home ISP addresses are out of question. Also register with Outlook SNDS https://sendersupport.olc.protection.outlook.com/snds/ , and Google FBL https://postmaster.google.com/ .

It is a lot of hops but I have done it once a few years ago and now it all works fine for me, got 100% delivery for small traffic.


By what mechanism do you believe this information "propagates" to other mail operators?


Aside from the sharing of RBL lists, the reflexive bouncing of mails? SMTP error codes rejecting delivery transitively? Maybe I'm wrong and there is no information sharing here? Not impossible or implausible. Does Macys tell Gimbels?

Another effect here is volume. That's non communicating between the big players but would inevitably lead to similar outcomes if they rank domains by volume/score weights.

Hosting a small mail domain in Google is a good way not to get marked bad it seems. Postini filtering on your gsuite user side is an added bonus. I've yet to withdraw a domain from gsuite so I don't know how long it stays "acceptable" But I do know Gmail is one of the principal "not an acceptable sender" paths. As to how that flows or informs o365 or any other player, I may be making a bridge too far.




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