> Embed yourself with your teams. Ask to be part of design discussions.
I agree that this should happen, most successful projects have people with all sorts of knowledge contributing to it, without too many silos in place.
> You have no excuse!
However, the Ops people don't always get that power or a say in the matter. In many dysfunctional environments they'll simply be given an apparently finished service and will be told to put it in prod.
Please don't dismiss that these circumstances exist altogether and don't shift the "blame" exclusively on the people who already have their lives be needlessly hard, this isn't likely to encourage a positive outlook.
> Please don't dismiss that these circumstances exist altogether and don't shift the "blame" exclusively on the people who already have their lives be needlessly hard, this isn't likely to encourage a positive outlook.
Au contraire, OP was blaming engineers with a "holier than thou" attitude. That exact attitude is the kind of thing that leads to the dysfunctional environments that you speak of.
Should SWE consider SRE at design time? Absolutely.
Should SRE consider SWE at design time? Absolutely.
I agree that this should happen, most successful projects have people with all sorts of knowledge contributing to it, without too many silos in place.
> You have no excuse!
However, the Ops people don't always get that power or a say in the matter. In many dysfunctional environments they'll simply be given an apparently finished service and will be told to put it in prod.
Please don't dismiss that these circumstances exist altogether and don't shift the "blame" exclusively on the people who already have their lives be needlessly hard, this isn't likely to encourage a positive outlook.