>Have you looked at the majority of pictures in r/jailbait, r/teen_girls, etc? If not, how can you say they were illegal?
I saw enough to make the judgement the majority of it was illegal. They had no intention of posting legal content.
>So the question is, how can you claim "the majority of them were illegal" when it's impossible to objectively determine that?
Okay then, if I were to claim, "The ones I saw were illegal." How would that change anything? There was still blatantly illegal content actively posted to and promoted on a forum.
If your goal was to win an argument of semantics, you should rethink your strategy.
>And I'm sure plenty of r/teen_girls posters would tell you they're posting the images for their artistic value.
No, most of them admitted to wanting sexual gratification out of the images. You must not have visited the subreddit. This wasn't some grey area.
>That's a completely different issue, don't muddle the discussion.
You were the one to first compare them. You should take your own advice. ;)
I saw enough to make the judgement the majority of it was illegal. They had no intention of posting legal content.
Again, why were those illegal and not the examples I gave? "Artistic value" is not a criteria of the Dost test. Why they were posted isn't either.
If those subreddits were illegal, then so are: many magazines, Wikipedia, Facebook (where a lot of them come), Google (try a search for 'jailbait' images), a huge number of movies, various TV shows and more.
Okay then, if I were to claim, "The ones I saw were illegal." How would that change anything? There was still blatantly illegal content actively posted to and promoted on a forum.
If your goal was to win an argument of semantics, you should rethink your strategy.
But (IMO) you still haven't managed to tell me why are those illegal and not the examples I gave. The only reason you gave (artistic value) is irrelevant to their legality, according to the test.
No, most of them admitted to wanting sexual gratification out of the images. You must not have visited the subreddit. This wasn't some grey area.
I very much doubt you could tell what most of 11600+ people said.
But in any case, if I derive sexual gratification from your posts, do they become obscene? The reason they are posted is irrelevant to determine their legality.
You were the one to first compare them. You should take your own advice. ;)
That's disingenuous. I brought them as examples which are relevant to the point being discussed - whether the images are illegal or not.
>Again, why were those illegal and not the examples I gave? "Artistic value" is not a criteria of the Dost test. Why they were posted isn't either.
Probably because the photograph wasn't meant to elicit a sexual response, nor were her genitals the focal point of the photograph.
>If those subreddits were illegal, then so are: many magazines, Wikipedia, Facebook (where a lot of them come), Google (try a search for 'jailbait' images), a huge number of movies, various TV shows and more.
Erm, no. No they're not.
>The only reason you gave (artistic value) is irrelevant to their legality, according to the test.
From the Dost test article:
>>Not all of the criteria need to be met, nor are other criteria necessarily excluded in this test.
>I very much doubt you could tell what most of 11600+ people said.
I could tell the general attitude of the subreddit from the majority of the comments posted. This isn't hard. When you go into /r/trees, you understand they are pro-marijuana. Maybe not all 100% subscribers feel that way, but that doesn't matter. So saying "Well you can't know what all the subscribers think!" is completely meaningless.
>But in any case, if I derive sexual gratification from your posts, do they become obscene?
No.
>I brought them as examples which are relevant to the point being discussed - whether the images are illegal or not.
And taking photos from a child's account and posting them all over the Internet are illegal.
I saw enough to make the judgement the majority of it was illegal. They had no intention of posting legal content.
>So the question is, how can you claim "the majority of them were illegal" when it's impossible to objectively determine that?
Okay then, if I were to claim, "The ones I saw were illegal." How would that change anything? There was still blatantly illegal content actively posted to and promoted on a forum.
If your goal was to win an argument of semantics, you should rethink your strategy.
>And I'm sure plenty of r/teen_girls posters would tell you they're posting the images for their artistic value.
No, most of them admitted to wanting sexual gratification out of the images. You must not have visited the subreddit. This wasn't some grey area.
>That's a completely different issue, don't muddle the discussion.
You were the one to first compare them. You should take your own advice. ;)