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Apple isn’t going to have internal bounties that can compete with nation state budgets.


Apple has annual revenue greater than the GDP of any of the bottom ~4/5 of nation-states.


Those countries aren't the ones using these exploits either.


The problem with internal bounties is that you'd be granting them to the people with power to put in the security holes they find.


Apple uses a ton of open source libraries. They could give bounties for security issues found in public releases.


Sure, but “internal bounties have fundamental problems of incentives at any scale” is a different problem than “Apple can't afford internal bounties on an adequate scale to compete with nation-state attackers”.


Apples revenue isn’t much lower than Israel’s GDP and NSO isn’t really a nation state actor.


NSO is reported to consist of mostly Unit 8200 staff. No way they're not deeply connected with the Israeli government.


Unit 8200 is single largest Israeli military unit, their entire tech industry is filled with 82xx, 81xx and 99xx alumni.

This is what happens when you have universal conscription and the intelligence corps get their pick of the brightest conscripts.

It still doesn’t make them a state actor anymore than the dozen or so European malware vendors and the probably far more numerous US ones and that is before looking into the defense sector proper.


This is a lie. It’s a UK owned company, part of Novalpina Capital. A division of their QCyber Group based out of Luxemburg.


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> NSO Group is a subsidiary of the Q Cyber Technologies group of companies.[7] Q Cyber Technologies is the name the NSO Group uses in Israel, but the company goes by OSY Technologies in Luxembourg, and in North America, a subsidiary formerly known as Westbridge. It has operated through various other companies around the world.[18]

> Owner > Novalpina Capital

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSO_Group


Apple is a nation state.


Snap of Xi’s finger and they mostly disappear.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tim-cook-silent-fox-reporter-con...


Apple has more employees than Kiribati's population.

More employees than the smallest 60 countries.


Most of those people are not engineers.


Micronesians or Apple employees?


Yes.




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