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If you drive a car that kills a child, you (potentially) go to jail.

If you are in a car that is driven by Waymo and it kills a child, the car drives away with no repercussions.

Are you really advocating a world where we change the laws to give Waymo a license to kill?

That won't ever, ever happen.

Also, "no negligence from the manufacturer" is very much begging the question. Read the typical software EULA, it is negligent by default.



Your argument is so terrible it's hard to understand how someone can actually believe that. Is your main concern really who is to blame for an accident, rather than how to avoid such accidents more effectively in the first place??? OMG please try to change your mindset, what a horrible way to approach this problem.


Are you claiming we should just abandon all manslaughter laws, #yolo, in the name of "progress" and market capitalization?

Really?


> If you drive a car that kills a child, you (potentially) go to jail.

If you weren't being negligent, the odds of going to jail are very low.

We can and should have the same "potential" for the people designing the car's software. But Waymo seems to be developing their code properly so it would never trigger for them.

> Are you really advocating a world where we change the laws to give Waymo a license to kill?

Everyone already has a license to kill if the activity is sufficiently sanctioned and the particular death is sufficiently unforeseeable.

> Read the typical software EULA, it is negligent by default.

What? Disclaiming liability isn't negligence.


> But Waymo seems to be developing their code properly so it would never trigger for them.

Allow me to not trust what their marketing department says. These are legal issues, "fake it till you make it" doesn't work here.


Sure, don't trust them, but at least see it's very possible, and that not being punished in that case wouldn't really be different from normal drivers.


"Conduct an investigation and punish the responsible in case of criminal negligence" is very different from "shit happens, so what if somebody died, Waymo's marketing decided that total collective happiness increased anyways".

Manslaugher is not the place to apply software startup disruption ideas.


My bigger point is that you only need to check for coder negligence every once in a while, not every time someone gets hit, it's fine if in the typical case nobody risks jail.

The """license to kill""" is one that drivers already have.

And you keep making the waymo side more and more of a strawman with each comment. I would appreciate the goal posts staying in place.




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