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I don't actually agree with unions, but not for the "usual" reasons. Unions are a scotch-tape fix to a broken economic system, which gives enormous powers to the capitalistic class at the expense of all others.

The correct solution is to fix the actual system. All large companies should be by constitutional law (controlling) majority owned 1/n by their workers. All this exploitation will disappear because workers will obviously not exploit themselves, but also will be incentivized to work hard for their own future.




> All large companies

when a company goes from small to large, original owners lose their ownership? Wouldn't they stop themselves from becoming large in order not lose their ownership .


This would be the ideal outcome because it would keep companies small, in turn their market shares remain small, leaving room for lots of competition.

Not sure the proposal would actually lead to this outcome, but it is a good outcome in my book.


wouldn't that defeat the whole point of gp's proposal of worker owned production ( vs capital owned ) . Why does worker ownership not matter in small companies?


To answer your original query, we can add other incentives to the system if larger firm size (by employee number) is beneficial in certain industries. Perhaps, the most straightforward way would be to not have a cliff for the minimum size where the 50% bound kicks in, but some linear function of number of workers. Since, larger firms often have a competitive advantage, this would increase the equilibrium size.

> Why does worker ownership not matter in small companies?

1. Small business owners also exploit their workers but this is partially solved by (a) competition between small firms, and (b) labor laws.

2. The reason labor laws are often ineffective is that the capitalist class, who owns large businesses, pays off federal/provincial politicians to change laws so their exploitation is legal, or to weaken enforcing agencies. Fixing the ownership of large firms will reduce worker exploitation in both small and large firms.

3. Stock-market listed companies are especially bad at worker (and customer) rights because they have to continuously grow. By ensuring that such companies are majority-owned by workers, the bad effects of the stock-market will be reduced (though not eliminated). Small companies are rarely listed.

4. Companies usually start small. Always starting as a co-op would make many businesses non-viable. And I don't see how society will be improved by family-owned restaurants or mom-and-pop shops operated as co-ops. So let the small companies continue to be owned by their founders.

Moreover, the capitalist class also lobbies for other legal/executive changes that transfer wealth from the worker class to the the capitalist class. That is a larger political problem that is solved by reducing the power of the capitalist class with these worker-ownership measures.


Funnily enough, Sweden came close to doing this in the 70s, forcing joint ownership of firms by employees. Unfortunately, it fell apart, and the whole country went down a more neoliberal path after the assassination of Olaf Palme and the collapse of the Soviet Union.


That solution doesn't work in practice because a nontrivial number of those workers are perfectly willing to exploit others for their own personal gain. Turns out people have flaws.

Unions are the best compromise anyone's found between capital and labor.


Is there evidence of this happening in existing worker-owned cooperatives?


During early 90-s, after USSR collapse, many factories in Russia have been privatized, and shares distributed among workers.

Guess who of the workers became rich and who stayed poor?


Nah, the workers will exploit each other. Win / win!


The system cannot be "fixed" because the winners of it have so much resources that they will not let it be fixed, undermining democracy itself if that's what it takes. Barring a revolution this is what we'll have for the rest of our lives.




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