The reason EV owners keep pushing back against this argument is that the experience of owning one often (obviously not always) leads to a massive recalibration of what you thought you cared about.
Road trips was something that was I was worried about when making the purchase in 2018, and it turned out to be a complete non-issue. In all that time, I have waited for a charger exactly once, for under 5 minutes, because we decided to stop at a busy outlet mall. During road trips, I'm not going to argue that we don't spend more time charging than we would stopping for gas, but it's not enough to bother me or my family, and if we include getting snacks or a bathroom break, the car is ready to go before we are.
It is wildly offset by the convenience of never having to fill up the car outside of those occasional road trips. People in the comments are talking about gas cars as the ones where you just get in and go without having to think about it -- there's very much a mirror image of that situation with an EV. When I had a gas car, fueling it was a constant chore. I had to think about it orders of magnitude more often. It simply doesn't come up with our EV. Every time it leaves the house, it does so with hundreds of miles of range. The idea of getting another car where I have to watch the gas gauge is almost reason enough that I'm going to stick with electric forever.
It is absolutely true that my experience is highly dependent on where I live, the kind of use I have for a car, the places I go, resources available to me, and just dumb luck. Others' mileage, literally, may vary. I'm not trying to sell you on this. It's just really easy to overestimate the importance of EV range.
> I'm not going to argue that we don't spend more time charging than we would stopping for gas, but it's not enough to bother me or my family, and if we include getting snacks or a bathroom break, the car is ready to go before we are.
The concern is that as adoption of EVs increase, the availability of places where one can charge on a journey outside of one's home range will not keep up with demand. I hope it becomes a non-issue, but I am hesitant to commit until it is clear it will not be.
At some point, there will be a tipping point where finding gasoline becomes the harder problem, but hybrid technology seems to me the most pragmatic way to get over the hump, if there will be one.
> The concern is that as adoption of EVs increase, the availability of places where one can charge on a journey outside of one's home range will not keep up with demand. I hope it becomes a non-issue, but I am hesitant to commit until it is clear it will not be.
This is the opposite of my experience. There are way more superchargers now than there were when I bought my car in 2019. Road trips are much easier. I worry about charging/waiting much less.
From the Bay Area, where Teslas are as common as Camrys, tons of people travel to the Tahoe basin for the holidays. I just did so last week. Charging was a complete non-issue even during this cold, extremely popular time.
And if you think about it, the same argument could be made about gas stations, that given how many ICE cars are on the road, places where you can fuel up on road trips will not keep up with demand — and is also not a reflection of reality.
Well see this is the thing. I think a lot of people make comments on these topics with a LOT of misconceptions which would be cleared up if they actually had an EV.
So honestly, while I think pure EVs are already good enough now, I think the solution is to just tell people to buy plugin hybrids. If it's like the Volt, they'll almost never use the engine, and when they do they'll wish it was pure EV. So it's perfect training wheels for a full EV. No range anxiety whatsoever, other than the desire not to use gas.
A (non-plug-in) hybrid has been good for me; quiet on electric power on city streets, and can do over 400 miles without refuelling. It claims to be in EV mode over half the time when commuting.
Fuel consumption is 65 mpg compared with 45 mpg in a similar petrol-only car I had 10 years ago.
Electric only would be nice, if I could afford one which could manage 300 miles minimum, accounting for cold weather, battery wear and manufacturers' lies/exaggerations.
Get a plug-in hybrid. If you're actually getting 65mpg, you're easily going to get the manufacturer's specs for electric range. (This one sort of ticks me off, because it's criminally misreported in the mainstream media... it's like people aren't aware the EPA exists or think they're failing at their jobs...)
When it's time to replace the current car I'll look into that again, but not yet.
I am actually getting 65 mpg on occasions when I'm not in an hour-long traffic jam in freezing weather (then it's 50-55), but I'd forgotten about the difference between Imperial and US gallons, so 65 would be 54 for Americans.
Right now, that isn't reality for a lot of people. Chargers either aren't maintained properly, or wait times to get to a charger are horrendous.
> Especially given that most charging happens at home, saving time vs going to a gas station every week.
That's ignoring the parent post's point. The usual commute isn't what's causing range anxiety.
Some day, I'll own an EV myself, but it isn't likely to be soon.