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Yeah, but if you're low and have to stop for gas, it makes you 10 minutes late. In an EV you're an hour late or have to find another ride.



You don't have to "stop for electricity" in a EV if you can charge at your home. Your car is always ready to go.


If you own a garage, this is not a thing that happens. One of the best advantages of EVs that many seem not to understand.


Most people in the world don't have garages. Even if they have one on the house they live in, there may be more cars in the family than can fit in the garage.


There are a lot more cars parked in garages than there are EVs. EV adoption is far from saturated. By the time that is anywhere close to happening, I expect that charge station deployments will be significantly improved as well.


>There are a lot more cars parked in garages than there are EVs.

What exactly are you suggesting? That EVs can only supplement gas-powered vehicles? That people can use other people's garages for their own EVs?

> EV adoption is far from saturated.

Major car manufacturers are slowing down their EV production because the cars just aren't competitive. That's saturation. EVs are overpriced and dangerous due to fire hazards, and only realistic for rich people who have the time and money to play.

>By the time that is anywhere close to happening, I expect that charge station deployments will be significantly improved as well.

Speaking of charging, we would need a huge increase in electricity production to be able to support lots of EVs on the road. California recently saw this pain happen when EV drivers were asked to not charge their cars. Eventually, it may be mandated that your car be equipped with "smart" chargers that don't charge most of the time, to save the grid. The idea of mandating EV adoption is dead on arrival. Notwithstanding nefarious intentions, I guess the lawmakers are hoping for dramatic improvements in tech that almost certainly won't come.


I'm suggesting that even if non-garage owners never own EVs there are still a lot of potential EV owners.

I'm curious what data you've seen about the fire risk. What I've seen suggests EVs are safer.

Grid capacity problems, when they occur, are related to maximum load, not average. EV charging load is among the least time sensitive loads there are. In fact, there are programs running now that allow EV owners to sell power back to the grid during periods of high demand.

It's my perspective that for some drivers, like myself, EVs are more practical than ICE, not less. This isn't true for everyone.


I have an EV, but even I think the stats are misrepresented.

Gas cars catch fire pretty often. Yes. But usually they are older cars, and they often catch fire when running or soon after running hard. It is very rare to mildly drive through your neighborhood, park, and then a gas car catches fire.

EVs are catching fire less than gas cars.... That are old and being driven hard. While being new. And parked.

That is a decent difference.


As a person with a garage, this happens. It's my fault because I didn't plug in but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.


At that point anything can happen if we're including general forgetfulness or accidental acts. But in general gas drivers rarely completely forget to get gas, they simply delay getting it out of not wanting to experience the 5+ minute delay at that point in their day.

Which is understandable in a gas car. You either spend the 5 minutes today, or you spend it tomorrow morning. Same 5 minutes technically.

But to forget plugging in your car which takes 15 seconds, with the alternative being having to find a charger away from home, is something that I don't think will happen often since it's so easy to avoid such a bigger pain point.


I mean… you can also stop for 10 minutes, get that 30% of battery you need, and be on your way


And then on your drive back, you're also low on charge, and then have to stop for 10 minutes.

The range concerns are overblown, I don't think it's fair to say that EVs have less hassle than a gas car




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