I've not looked into what exactly passed, but the proposal was joke. Even more so, it was joke regardless where you stand on this topic - and that's quite an achievement.
The proposal was constructed in a way that it technically legalized, but in a way that I'm sure will be of no practical relevance.
According to the proposal, to buy legally you had to be a member of a registered club, so no anonymity.
The club could only sell what it produces (three plants per member) and could only have a restricted number of members. The club can sell at most 50 g per month, it needs an addiction prevention officer, it cannot be near a kindergarden, and so on.
Very bureaucratic, so these clubs will be exactly as popular as intended.
> According to the proposal, to use legally you had to be a member of s club, so no anonymity. The club could only sell what it produces and could only have a couple of members.
This is basically how it works in Barcelona, Spain as well. I don't think it's legal/illegal nationwide, but we have invite-only social clubs where you can only become a member if you know existing members. I think (but I'm not sure) there is a maximum number of members per club too.
And you don't "buy" weed there, but you contribute money to the organization, and you may withdraw this contribution in the future as weed.
That’s wrong. You don’t have to be a member of a club to consume legally. Consumption has always been legal. Ownership was banned and is now legal for up to 50 grams.
My opinion: The law is constructed such that the parties that promised it (and are now in the government) can keep face (especially in the light of the upcoming elections), but that it will not have any practical relevance.
> Also, how do you tell a illegal from a legal migrant?
Believe it or not but when you gang rape people in the middle of a public park you usually get arrested and prosecuted, then your identity and status are given to the public.
> The fable of linking illegal migrants to rape and drug trafficking when number show no such thing at scale.
Again, every country releasing data about it proves the contrary, take france, every single crime category has an over representation of foreigners:
And it's not even descendant of legal migrants &c. it's just people who don't have the nationality. In big cities it's even worse, in Paris public transports 65% of sexual assaults are committed by foreigners, 93% of thefts too.
I'm all for discussing the various causes but if your ideology is so strong you can't accept official stats I think it's pointless, continue to live in your imagined world and we'll continue to avoid our local park at night because we're racist.
Since when is Berlin in France? Also, not all foreigners are equal, if you get the drift. Also, you, like a lot of people, ignore the connection between crime, poverty, economic stability and ethnicity. And your conclusion is, well, racist.
it's just an example because I know where to get these sources. Feel free to discuss the content though ;)
> Also, you, like a lot of people, ignore the connection between crime, poverty, economic stability and ethnicity. And your conclusion is, well, racist.
The poorest regions in France and Germany are the lowest in crime, rural areas are by far poorer and aren't plagued by neither rapes nor drug dealing.
Even with all the causes listed I can't get past the fact that people get gang raped and stabbed 500 meters from my flat, and it doesn't change the fact that people avoid the place and that it's the biggest local drug dealing spot.
Keep moving the goal post, hopefully one day you'll face the facts, and once the facts are accepted we can discuss the causes all day long and attempt to find solutions, of course if the facts can't be discussed neutrally finding a solution is impossible
Since this this whole shit shownof a thread started with a claim about drugs and rapes in a Berlin park, this statement of yours, re: statics for France, is interesting:
>> it's just an example because I know where to get these sources. Feel free to discuss the content though ;)
I take it you are not based in Germany, and certainly not Berlin, then.
The French problem with banlieues is an intersting one. One that can be discussed under a relevant submission.
Nice so, of moving the goal post, litterally, from Berlin to France. Not that I expected anything else.
Source:
https://www.bundesgesundheitsministerium.de/service/gesetze-...
I've not looked into what exactly passed, but the proposal was joke. Even more so, it was joke regardless where you stand on this topic - and that's quite an achievement.
The proposal was constructed in a way that it technically legalized, but in a way that I'm sure will be of no practical relevance.
According to the proposal, to buy legally you had to be a member of a registered club, so no anonymity.
The club could only sell what it produces (three plants per member) and could only have a restricted number of members. The club can sell at most 50 g per month, it needs an addiction prevention officer, it cannot be near a kindergarden, and so on. Very bureaucratic, so these clubs will be exactly as popular as intended.