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Its not a bad read but it's a bit loose. I'd object to the description of

> Lolita (1962), Dr. Strangelove (1964), and A Clockwork Orange (1971)—three of his most celebrated works, and all three black comedies (about pedophilia, nuclear war, and violent crime, respectively).

Hardly comedies (except Dr.S) and the "abouts" are superficial. A Clockwork Orange is about the nature of free will, not violent crime!

The bit about Prescot Bush "who helped fund Hitler's regime" is a long bow to draw. Maybe technically true in some tiny irrelevant sense.




> The bit about Prescot Bush "who helped fund Hitler's regime" is a long bow to draw. Maybe technically true in some tiny irrelevant sense.

If anything the author is underselling the connection. Millions of 1930's dollars; gold, fuel, steel, coal, bonds etc [0] can hardly be described as 'tiny irrelevant'.

> ... the new documents, many of which were only declassified last year [2009], show that even after America had entered the war and when there was already significant information about the Nazis' plans and policies, he worked for and profited from companies closely involved with the very German businesses that financed Hitler's rise to power. It has also been suggested that the money he made from these dealings helped to establish the Bush family fortune and set up its political dynasty.

Prescott was also implicated in the 1933 Business Plot [1]:

> In July 2007, a BBC investigation reported that Prescott Bush, father of U.S. President George H. W. Bush and grandfather of then-president George W. Bush, was to have been a "key liaison" between the 1933 Business Plotters and the newly emerged Nazi regime in Germany,[51] although this has been disputed by Jonathan Katz as a misconception caused by a clerical research error.[52] According to Katz, "Prescott Bush was too involved with the actual Nazis to be involved with something that was so home grown as the Business Plot."[53]

Both links below offer many sources, including the BBC and The Guardian, along with multiple official archives.

0 - https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/how-bushs-grandfa...

1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot


Sure millions of dollars, gold etc. But what involvement did Prescot Bush have and when? Your links aren't conclusive at all.

I don't place any much credence in anything published in Democracy Now! If anything Prescot Bush is known for his opposition to McCarthy, for example.


Am I supposed to believe you're an expert on this man whose name you've misspelled three times now?

And, the main/original reporting on this was by the Guardian in '04 and the BBC in '07 after more files were released. I don't know where you pulled Democracy Now! from?

> But what involvement did Prescot Bush have and when? Your links aren't conclusive at all.

Did you read the link? Or my comment? They're pretty clear as to where they're getting this information:

> Three sets of archives spell out Prescott Bush's involvement. All three are readily available, thanks to the efficient US archive system and a helpful and dedicated staff at both the Library of Congress in Washington and the National Archives at the University of Maryland.

If you have any proof that the BBC and The Guardian were lying about this, feel free to present it.

Honestly it's really, really weird that you'd double down on this after being presented with the above articles. If they don't convince you, fine, but it doesn't seem you've actually read them.

> If anything Prescot Bush is known for his opposition to McCarthy, for example.

Sorry; opposing McCarthy (20 years later) means he didn't support Nazis how exactly? Not trying to be mean or anything but you seem a bit too confused on this topic to be making declarations of innocence.


Sorry that mention of Democracy Now was from an interview or separate article. Actually your cite[53] from the Wikipedia quote.

I'm not an expert, but I knew of the history of Smedley Butler and the Prescott Bush/Union Bank history.

Those articles don't add anything substantial. Maybe if you like you could mention the most substantial or damning fact from among them. You shouldn't feel the need though.




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