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I tend to agree with you. But on the other hand, if true, this is the kind of crazy situation that could also lead to new mathematics where regimes considered unstable are revealed to have surprising stable nodes.

The big problem here is that it's described as a wall and not a progressively (quadratically) increasing field.

But what if there actually are network effects propagated by charge carrying particles in a suitably humid environment that turn the power of 2 into something else? Even a power of 3 could be perceived reasonably as a wall at human scale.

It's not "I want to believe" so much as "it feels like the maths might allow this under odd but reproducible circumstances" (my relevant background here is in math-physics and specifically analytic solutions to the relevant PDEs, which do have some very odd solutions). Would be nice to see people try.

There are differences between effects we can observe between ideal point charges and ones that only emerge as network effects when propagated across a network of less than ideal point charges that at least merit some investigation.




I believe the description as a "wall" is not completely correct. Yes, it's a wall as a unpassable obstacle, but the description they gave when walking into it seems more like a field "can't turn around just walk backwards". The field was just dense enough to stop people from continuing moving forward similar to molasses.


The gripe I have though is that it is incredibly hard (if not impossible) to create a dense powerful e-field without it arcing over.

To be powerful you need an incredibly high voltage, to be dense you need the positive (holes, as they say) and negative charges to be close to each other.

If you could get 5MV between two plates that are a foot apart, that e-field would be insane an probably could do all manner of sci-fi. But it would flash over and equalize in a picosecond. Even if you had some kind of god tier power supply supply that could support a constant 5MV, you would just end up with a dense wad of plasma vaporizing everything.


Dunno. The breakdown voltage of vacuum is enormous. There might be several unknown parameters at play here which would increase the breakdown voltage of the air.

It might be but an urban legend, but the phenomenon sounds way too fun to not look into it (or to stop spreading it should it turn out as false, kinda like Santa)


There are floating electrostatic experiments that are pretty cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6bKDaZiy_k


This is the same impression I got, precisely because of this description. If it's the effect of a field, it would seem that by the point you notice it blocking your forward progress, you're already rather deep in it.

Perhaps humans feel resistance/repulsive forces non-linearly?

Makes me think of magnets, too - when you have two strong magnets oriented so they repel each other, and try to get them closer, the effect is very strongly non-linear and, unless you're intentionally pushing the magnets together with significant force, can feel like it turns on almost instantly.


> Perhaps humans feel resistance/repulsive forces non-linearly?

That's got to be the key here. Human perception is known to be logarithmic in so many other ways.


Scotch tape produces X-Rays, so something like this feels similarly plausible:

https://www.technologyreview.com/2008/10/23/217918/x-rays-ma...

(Even if that feeling is misplaced and uninformed)


> But on the other hand, if true, this is the kind of crazy situation that could also lead to new mathematics where regimes considered unstable are revealed to have surprising stable nodes.

I feel like if it was real, 3M would have immediately diverted a bunch of money into working out how to commercialize it, and we'd have evidence of that.


Tbf an "impassable invisible forcefield" sounds really useful for various applications. If it was possible at all, someone would have done some research into it, surely?


I think we're saying the thing


Oh yeah we are, I think I'm just adding to your comment that even if 3M ignored it then someone would have researched it.


But if its a wall and you touch it - you should become part of it and thus be unable to leave it ?




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