This is anti-competitive measures, it's not like it's the only thing they do lik...

monerozcash · 2025-11-16T09:27:44 1763285264

If this is about lightning, what connector do you think apple should have used? USB-C came out long after lightning.

formerly_proven · 2025-11-16T12:38:12 1763296692

> USB-C [Aug 2014] came out long after lightning [Sep 2012].

1 year 11 months :)

The old 30-pin connector before Lightning came from 2003.

Meanwhile it took until 2023 for iPhones to use USB-C.

    30-pin     2003 - 2012 (2014)
    Lighting   2012 - 2023 (2025)
    USB-C AAPL utter mess -
               iPhone 2023 -
    USB-C RoW  2014 -

monerozcash · 2025-11-17T09:11:20 1763370680

Yeah, I don't think the connector criticism of Apple really stands up to any scrutiny. 30-pin was strictly better than USB-based solutions when it came out, as was Lightning. They supported both of those for a very long time and kept tons of iDevice accessories around the world functioning.

raw_anon_1111 · 2025-11-16T16:22:46 1763310166

How was USB C on Apple a “mess” when it came out on the iPhone 14? It supported all of the standard USB protocols - video, networking, mass storage, audio etc.

formerly_proven · 2025-11-16T17:01:28 1763312488

The transition to USB-C was spread out across product lines over many years, hence "mess". The iPhone is on a separate line in the table.

raw_anon_1111 · 2025-11-16T14:08:09 1763302089

Yes because Apple has a monopoly on - Bluetooth headphones you can use with Android devices??

Do console makers have to make sure that their accessories work with other consoles? Do TV manufacturers have to ensure their remotes work with other TVs?

And no you never had to buy Apple branded or licensed charging cables.