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This feels like a much better feature than “they can track your realtime location from the mobile app” as implied in the article? Plus employees will have to opt in?

The tracking is still gross, but limited to opt-in on office WiFi seems a lot less dramatic of a headline, especially given the main concern people have is work from home



> Plus employees will have to opt in?

If a company policy says you have to opt in, not opting in means you're breaching the policy and might get fired. Entirely legal in at-will employment places, but potentially not in places with better worker protections.

Saying that, I just got announcement from my employer they will not be turning it on for now.


Employees need to join a union


Personally I wouldn’t even start working for an organisation that uses Microsoft …


So how many dozens of organizations can you work for?



> More and more every day.

That's not a bad thing.

But I think its totally unrealistic and impractical to deal with this kind of thing by being so choosy that you won't work for an org that uses Microsoft. Actually acting that way probably just means choosing to be unemployed (for the vast majority, at least).


Honestly I don’t know. Pretty comfortable where I’m now and we would never even consider using any M$ products ever. I know US culture is more about job-hopping every other year but I’m at the same place for many years now


We used to use GSuite then we got acquired and we're a microsoft shop. :(


God that is the one big fear I have xD


unfortunately, my org that used google got acquired by an org that forced MS on us...


My large corp is moving to Google from MS, which doesn’t impact me much (I’m contracted out to another large corp) but I really wonder at the expense (in time) of a migration. What a huge drain on resources in the short term.


They can already do… pretty much any organization uses a VPN or “ZTNA” to provide access to resources so they know where you are.


> Plus employees will have to opt in?

I mean, that's not really how "opt-in" works for features that your company owns; you might have to "opt-in" technically but your company will probably make that a little more mandatory.

I do agree that the blog post, headline, and HN comments are as usual quite an overreaction, but this feature is pretty gross. It's also weird because the controversy/grossness-to-utility ratio seems awful, which either means that Microsoft product management has gotten as bad as everyone thinks it has or there's some future plan to make it more "robust."


My concern is if the employee is aware, at least let me quit before I’m silently opted into my boss realizing I can get the same work done with less time at the desk from home




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