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Too little, too late. Switched to Brave and haven’t been happier. Firefox lost the plot years ago.


Brave comes with its own branded "Leo"[1] AI assistant built into the browser lol

[1] https://brave.com/leo/


Every time brave gets walked out as some good alternative I cant get past the vc / crypto coin / brave-reward holding garbage.

Maybe they're ok now but they had some really gross mistakes (?).


There's a lot of confusion around the "brave-reward holding garbage."

To be brief, Brave issued grants to users, which those same users could then direct to their favorite content creators. So, the grants _started with Brave_, and initially _remained with Brave_ until they were claimed by the designated content creator. If the content creator never claimed the grant, it could be recycled back into the pool, and re-issued to another Brave user in the future.

The _grossness_ of this "controversy" is in the fiction surrounding it, and not in the details itself. Some falsely claimed Brave solicited donations on behalf of content creators—that was never the case. _Falsehood flies, and the truth comes limping after it._


Rewards has always been opt in, so you don't need to get past it to use Brave. We would not be here without it, but use Chrome or Firefox if you prefer. IMHO "really gross" applies to the Google spyware embedded in Chrome, and Firefox has had its share of "gross mistakes" since I left.

For those who don't want to free ride, we will offer Brave Origin soon. One time payment for stripped down Brave, no opt-in UX of any kind.


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The moment you read “crypto mining in the browser while you browse” should be an immediate red flag that you should run away. Absolutely no need to respect him even when he was the creator of JS. So what.


“but it’s opt in, bro, you dont have to use it” — every Brave stan


We never, as in not ever, offered crypto mining in the browser.


In fact, Brave was the first browser to block nasty crypto-jacking/mining scripts (e.g., CoinHive) when they began to appear on the scene, nearly a decade ago.


> ... things like "Come home, white man" and other dog-whistles on image-boards

Wow, that's a new lie.

Do you have any evidence? This isn't something Brave ever did, but it's easy to make unfalsifiable "There's probably archives" b.s. claims on HN.


Thank you for signaling you had no idea this was happening. I wouldn't make such a thing up, if that's what you're asking. If you have no idea this happened that's one thing - but I am telling you the truth in saying that is what I saw.

You might also want to evaluate what kind of people are attracted by your image. Your actions have spoken far louder than any accusations I have made here. Hint.

> it's easy to make unfalsifiable "There's probably archives" b.s. claims on HN.

The grapevine literally called them (not my words) "brave shill threads". Companies have been scraping the text based web for decades. Of course there's archives. They may not necessarily be indexed by search engines.




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