Having a searchable search history feels kinda meta, but this basically solves the problem of "I know I found this webpage a while back but I can't find it again". Ideally this sort of thing would be handled by the browser's history feature and stored locally, but the browser can't (or at least doesn't) correlate between "you searched for this term" and "you clicked this result". I also find that the browser's history search leaves something to be desired, and let's not increase Firefox's memory footprint even more by making it better!
(Browser history is also stored online for most browsers these days, and especially if you use Chrome then Google already have your history anyway).
Do you honestly believe that if the NSA decided they wanted your browser history, the encryption used by Chrome or Firefox would stymie them for too long?
I guess I'm just not really clear on what folks are worried about happening with these history data. Is the concern that the data could be leaked, revealing potentially privacy-compromising information? Or that Google might mine it in an attempt to make a buck off of your metadata? Or that the government might use it to identify you as a potential political dissident?
Personally, I find the Google search history to be useful, though less useful lately since DDG is my primary search engine now. I don't quite get the knee-jerk "this is creepy" outrage and fear I see from some folks about this feature.
> Do you honestly believe that if the NSA decided they wanted your browser history, the encryption used by Chrome or Firefox would stymie them for too long?
If they care about your browser history specifically, then in a battle between one individual and a government-level adversary, I'd bet on the latter; it's unlikely they'd try to break the encryption when they could use keyloggers, cameras, or any number of other methods that work fine on targeted individuals. (Or,
But if they care about doing blanket capture and analysis of everyone's history, then yes, I think the encryption used by Chrome and Firefox should work. Security bugs are always possible, of course, and browsers are quite notorious for them, but the more widely a security bug is exploited, the more rapidly it'll be detected and fixed.
Being accused of a precrime is one thing to be concerned about. It's happened to quite a few people. People who planned an event similar to "Improv Everywhere" in London were captured and detained before they could do something which was not even illegal... An Irish guy got questioned for a solid 12 hours and sent home for an innocuous tweet. Another person was detained and had his home trashed for quoting a movie on Facebook. This happens all the time. Imagine if you are a writer for a mystery novel, you want to do some research, and then someone close to you dies. Now your research queries are going to be used to make you look guilty. Yeah, an 'innocent' man has nothing to fear from the law, except they do, as you can clearly see if you ever have heard of http://www.innocenceproject.org/.
This is certainly a concern. However, I believe that if the NSA or local law enforcement have a way to mine your search history internal to Google, they will not be stopped in this endeavor just because you told Google not to save your search history. They can just gather the data in real time and maintain their own history for you.
The solution to this is not to turn off Google's search history, but to use a search engine (like DDG) who purportedly have security and anonymity built in.
> Do you honestly believe that if the NSA decided they wanted your browser history, the encryption used by Chrome or Firefox would stymie them for too long?
Yes, I do. But I also believe that they would more easily access my computer after I inserted the master password, or detain me with false accuses until I give up, and maybe more. We're talking about organizations that do not abide by the law. But one thing is to worry for the NSA coming after you, another is to keep your history hidden from Google.
Can you explain to me why you don't want Google seeing your search history? Remember: you are voluntarily submitting these searches to Google. Why would you search using an engine you don't trust? Or is it that you don't want them to have the historical data?
I submit that if you don't want Google to know about your searches, you should not use Google (or at the very least, not use Google with a browser logged in to a Google service).
Hi Nathan, I just wanted to point out that is different to try to hide something from the NSA and from Google, I didn't mean to say that is good or bad to hide things from Google when using their services.
That said, I can imagine someone who wants to use a search engine that he doesn't trust (because the results are better but wants to keep his privacy): for example a girl may want to search for pregnancy tests but she may dislike to be later targeted by ads about that.
You are right that one could simply avoid the service or at least avoid to be logged in, but most people are oblivious of these things.
Yeah, I can understand going in and deleting specific things in your history if Google keeps serving you ads about them. But turning off the entire history seems like overkill.
(And your point about hiding from the NSA vs. Google is what I was trying to get at in my comment above, which for some reason got downvoted quite heavily).
I find it quite useful for the auto-completition feature, esp. when I switch between different machines.
But still, I deactivated it. The potential disagreement surpasses the benefits. Whenever someone is looking at my screen, I'm always concerned that an embarrassing previous query pop up.
I don't have a google account, my main search engine is duckduckgo ( I occasionally use google search but always use the anonymous encrypted version) and my browser (opera) offers a history search feature which works well.
I'm not a privacy freak, but I still have Search and Youtube history turned off. Why? Because the superficial kind of machine learning done by everyone today (Google included) yields crap results.
Example: I'm subscribed to pewdiepie on Youtube (the other subscriptions being mostly dev stuff). ALL the videos recommended now are garbage made for/by mentally challenged 14 year olds. It was even worse when I had YT history on. At least now I get somewhat relevant related videos (useful when learning about a new technology, a startup, etc).
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You do realise that I'm subscribed to only 1 _shitty_ channel and 15+ _real_ ones? Actually, this might mean that Youtube's algorithms are skewed toward popular stuff (there's no contest between pewds and Google Developers, lol).
You subscribed to a mentally challenged 14 year old and you are questioning why you get suggestions for videos by mentally challenged 14 year olds?
But seriously, it could probably be improved. Does anyone know if down voting videos affects recommendations? I also wish I could explicitly ignore things on the recommendations section before I watch them. Just out of principle I don't want to give them a view and potentially ad money just so I can down vote them.
Obviously, pewdiepie isn't the epitome of intellectual achievement, but he's not _that_ bad either. I like him because (i) he's Swedish and about my age and (ii) his insane success is a very interesting and relatively new phenomenon. Have a look at some stats, his subscribers and views skyrocketed organically like nothing seen before.
Basically Google changed their algorithm to recommend videos based on time watched instead of just views. Which massively favored let's plays because they are so long. They also promote channels based on geographical location. Pewdiepie had an advantage somehow because he had a fanbase in Sweden and moved to Italy.
This might also explain parent comment's problem (recommendations favoring let's plays because they are longer.)
I'd rather not become part of the problem. Being popular for being popular in my opinion is not something that holds much merit.
Watching other people play games in particular is really silly to me when I can just play them myself. It's just one of those weird fads that isn't for me.
That's interesting, I'm actually the other way around. I see games as a work of art instead of a pastime, so I enjoy watching people play rather than doing it myself. It feels like I'm saving time this way. :) It might have something to do with the fact that having a family has turned my interests system around.
Those things aren't mutually exclusive. A game can be a work of art and an enjoyable pastime. In fact the idea of putting some unfunny weirdo's face and voice over the game's story really destroys a lot of the artistic value.
Well you're subscribed to pewdiepie - sounds to me like the recommended videos are right on the money. It's not like pewdiepie's demo is in the 20-28 year bracket.
You can get data about your Google queries from the Firefox history database even when you are not using Google history, for instance using the following (no guarantees on sanity/completeness, assumes you are on Unix with necessary utilities installed, have only one profile folder, etc.):
I find it interesting that the `web history` link wanted me to re-authenticate, which I failed to do. (Specifically it wanted a 2FA token.)
This location history came up w/o even verifying my identity or asking for re-authentication.
(I'm on a machine that has multiple Google profiles signed in.)
An adversary mining my location history for metadata is _much more worrisome_ than somebody finding out I listened to the whole `Kagerou Project` playlist on youtube for the third time.
I'm not upset that Google has this data; I do use Google Now which practically exists solely to extract metadata from my routine. I just can't believe its not behind a `re-authentication wall.`
Location history is necessary for some Google Maps feature I don't remember. But for either of these services you can create a dummy account on your Android devices and just enable it per-device, and separately sync your main [real] account's mail, contacts, etc. Segregates privacy information so any exposure is limited to an individual device or profile.
I keep my Android tablet at home and so my location history is all screwed up. It thinks that I keep on jumping between my home and wherever I actual am.
Argh! I knew about the search history and had it turned off but I did not know about this location database. I recently got an Android phone and it must save your location history because it is showing all my travel for the period I've been using the phone. This is creepy as hell. This phone is going back.
You can disable the location tracking on your phone. I would try that before you return it. You can forbid Google from collecting location data and still be able to use location functionality on the phone (like for navigation).
I didn't particularly care for it anyways and it was a try it for 30-days deal so. I've used Google maps on my iPhone but I guess since I never signed it it didn't record the locations.
I realize that the phone company can to some extent track your location as well based on the cell tower but that isn't quite as accurate or convenient as the GPS data.
So assuming your comment is based on a fact (and I still don't see any citation), do you mean to say the "whatever kind of profile" google uses can still be tied to your google account? If not, then it's _anonymous_ as far as I am concerned.
I know we're meant to be freaked out by this but I think it would actually be pretty cool to have data for tens of thousands of search results stretching back a decade or so. With a bit of analysis you could get some cool insights into past interests, their dynamics over time etc.
Yes, to me, this and the location history are just plain awesome automatic logging that I get for free. That said, it's only free to me because I already value my privacy on the internet at $0.
I especially like having a graph that tells me I need to sleep more regularly [1] and I also like having location history that tells me I'm a very boring person in the real world (and that my phone's GPS is wildly inaccurate).
Ha, no you crunch the numbers, you get the insights. Google does so whether you opt-in or not.
Something I'd like to do (someone else asked for an e.g.) is look back at programming language searches, as they'll nearly always have the lang in the query. I'd be able to see when I started learning e.g. python and had to google everything, when I picked up other languages, how those searches decreased (or increased) as I learned more. Lots of interesting stuff.
If I understand your argument, you're saying Google will collect this information anyway, and at least by keeping web history on, you can do some analysis on your own browsing habits. I'm aware that Google is collecting and storing this our search history, even after disabling web history. That's why I think Google shouldn't be collecting this information at all.
I have no problem with collecting your own search history, storing it locally, and analyzing it (though I doubt it would produce any groundbreaking insights). I just think it's safer if you store it yourself.
I admit that this auto logging stuff is really cool, but at the same time, I feel queasy about using Google for the logging. If you really wanted to log, couldn't you install a proxy?
If anyone around here doesn't already know about it, Google must want it to be very out-of-the-way. I would love to see typical users' reactions to this killer feature: it would be perfect for one of those hidden-camera, person-off-the-street, "No way!" sort of ads.
I turned it off circa 2006 and I'm glad to see that it's still off.
There doesn't seem to be any way to export to a machine-readable format. Not even the Google Data Liberation Front seems to be of any help :/
Feeling determined and stubborn, I even tried writing a quick CasperJS script to scrape the page data but quickly ran into two-factor auth obstacles. Since Google won't let you login with an application-specific password and doesn't have any API endpoint which devs can hit to get this data, it makes things rather tricky! Getting easy, downloadable access to this search history directly from Google doesn't seem within the grasp of even a determined developer at this point.
An interesting piece of data they show is how often you click on Ads. I seem to do it about once a week, which I did not expect, as in my mind I almost never click on ads (although in a lot of those searches the Ad just leads to the actual site I'm searching for).
Looking at it confirmed what I thought: I just click on ads when I dislike the advertiser. Google usually gets a few cents whenever I search for GoDaddy, for example.
75105 and also not creeped out. Search results are a whole lot more relevant for me when I'm logged in, especially when searching for dev-related topics that oftentimes have very generic, real-world terms with specific meanings in that context.
71060 since November 21st 2007. (2379 days). Admittedly, I wasn't the only one who was likely getting logged as a searcher for a number of those years. 30 searches per day. That's a lot of searches per day.
To see so many people on here finding this a useful feature I wonder if there are browser extensions which store the search history (independent of the search provider) client-side.
No, I'm not creeped out by it. Largely of course because I have it turned off.
I am however shocked by the fact that so many people are okay with it being legal for any company to collect such data from people we all know full well do not understand the consequences. So called opt-in is by far not sufficient permission for this. That should come with a signed contract that includes penalty clauses that could in extremis bankrupt the company and jail it's owners.
A contract that can only be signed by consenting adults. Google now stalks your children and sells their data. Are you really okay with that?
It's ironic that it's called "history", because we obviously haven't learned anything from it.
Seriously, nobody wants to read what Google has published a million times, before bitching about Google and it's "complete disregard for users' privacy"?
This is not news. Yes, Google collects your history and associates with your account _if you opt in_, OR it still collects the information anonymously. That's nothing new. Neither is Google the ONLY company doing it. Apple does it. Facebook does it. Microsoft does it. Every tom-dick-harry and their analytics suits do it. Your ISP does it. NSA does it. And your browser, your computer and your phone does it.
At least Google tells you what it collects, how, and let's you control it. It also tells you what happens WHEN YOU DELETE THE HISTORY: (https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/465?hl=en)
"When you delete items from your Web History, they are no longer associated with your Google Account. However, Google may store searches in a separate logs system to prevent spam and abuse and to improve our services."
Well, if you're going to be that paranoid, there's no guarantee that they're not still recording / saving all your searches after you disable saved searches.
The point I'm trying to make is either you trust Google to abide by your wishes and not save your search history, or you don't.
It all boils down to risk. Yes, there is some data that companies are required to keep for N years due to auditing, etc. That's unavoidable. But there comes a point where keeping data (especially personal information that is usually covered by numerous laws and 200-page policies from bodies such as the credit card industry) becomes a liability. Companies typically don't like liabilities, and therefor delete it.
Now, there are data that a company might consider keeping because the income generated by keeping it outweighs the risk associated by mishandling it. And you're right, there's no way of knowing what Google considers this to be. But that was my original point- if you don't trust Google to delete your history when you ask, then why do you trust them to not keep it in the first place when you opt-out?
I have this and youtube history turned off because both use broken machine learning to try to interest me in nonsense I don't care about each time I search for something.
Example: Yea I clicked on the "Oprah gives a car to everyone" video, but right now I'm trying to watch videos relevant to PHP security, and I don't care to see talkshow outtakes in the "related" sidebar.
My #1 request with Chrome would be if it could sort the history by "last seen/interacted with", not by last opened tab because it would be more accurate when I'm trying to retrace my steps e.g. "I know I was just reading X page 10 minutes ago, but that was a page I opened two hours ago, so it's way way down in the history".
Like dansparza mentioned, this isn't new. If you want to avoid having your searches logged specifically on your google account you could always use an incognito/private session. (Yes, it doesn't stop you from being tracked entirely, but it does limit the effect.)
Also, DDG has severely decreased my search activity.
Concerns about this seem overblown to me. I get regular comparisons as I have a tablet device that's not linked to any account and also use more than one search engine or browser. I find a marked improvement in the quality of results when I'm logged in, particularly when I'm researching legal or academic topics where I'm more interested in primary sources and long-form article coverage than in (more popular) blog and mainstream news outlet coverage. The other benefit is the personal blocklist, which automatically filters away a vast range of stuff which I know to be crap.
Not using Google is probably the best solution. If you still have to use it for whatever reason, don't give them all your data. The only thing you really have to give them is your search term.
I turned this off years ago when it first came out. I have no idea if turning this off is a false sense of privacy or not.
Either way, I turned it back on recently. There are a few things Google requires this feature on such as keeping a history on the Google Maps app for Android.
I'd forgotten about this. I keep thinking about deleting my google account but I have so many accounts linked to it. I host my own email, but I haven't taken the plunge of hooking everything up with that because of what happened with @n.
Note that turning off your google history does absolutely nothing on googles side besides flipping one bit which stops you from having access to the data too. They're still collecting all your searches and associating them with you.
I have 21705 and for some reason my history starts from Mar 10, 2013 (I was sure I've had history on for years longer than that), except for some photo searches in 2011 when I was testing an android app.
At any rate, I wish they did more visualizations, and allowed you to see more than the top 5 results for the ones they have.
I also wish someone would create a script which would search through my searches (!) and infer what my interests are, over time, and display them on a horizontal timeline.
I was pleased to see that it's password protected even though I know I was already logged in to "google". Does anyone know what the specific authentication rules are? I'm hoping my History session expires quickly.
I wonder if a competing search engine would be willing to buy your search loyalty based on your past search volume. It seems like your value as a customer would be pretty easy to calculate with this data.
How is it possible that I only have searches from May (~500). I'm confident I've always been logged in to my google account, though I only re-enabled G+ recently...
All I get from following the links in the comments is a blue button to turn ON some google feature. Have I avoided opting IN to something nasty thus far?
I had turned it off on my account as well, which is what made seeing two years of search history from myself so surprising. I assume when my account was +'d, this setting was accidentally missed.
Moral of the story, just take a quick look anyways.
Wait, you go and delete the search history from someone else's account? And it's your client? Wow. And then you complain about what you see when you're in there?
I wouldn't go so far as to say outrage. Let's call it confusion. You advocate deleting the history to your clients, they don't do it, so you go ahead and do it anyway. And along the way, you get bothered by what you see when going into the history pages. If I were in your situation, I'd figure that maybe the client has an unstated reason for not wanting to delete the history and consider it none of my business.
I don't advocate deleting the history of my clients, do you have problem with reading comprehension?
The thing I "advocate" happens to be the best practice recommended by Google (if you'd care to dig into the docs, and no one does) for sharing the administration and viewing of Site Analytics groups (they're called Site Analytics "accounts" which are inside Google "accounts" so you can imagine that many folks get confused over what is what).
The best practice is not to create a new Google account and not to share that account's password with strangers (or even friends). There's a method for sharing just analytics with other Google Accounts, buried in the Site Analytics admin panel.
With that setup, the client will be creating a Site Analytics account within his personal Google account, and sharing said Site Analytics with my personal account. And I won't be able to see, let alone delete or disable their search history. Alas, that's not how things usually go.
People just don't get it, so they create new Google accounts over my head, share it with everyone, and everyone's search history ends up in the shared accounts. So when that accounts gets to me, I delete & disable search history. I know for a fact no one who ever logged into this shared account intended to share their browsing history with people.
Exacerbating the problem is the fact Google accounts are intentionally designed so that you log in and forget you're logged in. Google wants to know who you are. The accounts are also designed so that if you want a standalone account for analytics, it's a full-blown Google account, so you end up with people's search history in there (and a bunch of other services no one asked about, like email, docs etc.). And people don't understand the implications of sharing a Google account they've been logged into.
By the way, thanks for twisting my words and intent out of shape like you did. Now that I've had to waste the time to explain my original post as if to an imbecile, I'm sure everyone reading this will gain clarity about the situation I was describing. Cheers.
Your reasoning for not wanting the history saved makes perfect sense. It's making that decision for someone else's account that I don't really understand. Oh well, I guess we disagree, and you have the comfort of not being an imbecile. Cheers.
I remember finding this and disabling it a long time ago. Thought I'd regret it later when I realize I don't have a lengthy log of my history with Google, but actually the feeling of not being creeped out is great.
Thanks, just disabled this crap and deleted everything associated to my search history. This is beyond creepy and I just don't like. I've switched entirely to Firefox/DuckDuckgo since version 29 fixed it's developer tools and I won't switch back to the monolith that is Google.
It's funny, but I trust Microsoft entirely more than Google.
Having a searchable search history feels kinda meta, but this basically solves the problem of "I know I found this webpage a while back but I can't find it again". Ideally this sort of thing would be handled by the browser's history feature and stored locally, but the browser can't (or at least doesn't) correlate between "you searched for this term" and "you clicked this result". I also find that the browser's history search leaves something to be desired, and let's not increase Firefox's memory footprint even more by making it better!
(Browser history is also stored online for most browsers these days, and especially if you use Chrome then Google already have your history anyway).