Small correction: we are not talking about init systems. We are talking about the change from a "distributed" userspace to a "centralized" one. It's an highly political debate while also being technical.
Tempers are gonna flare.
Go to your local town hall and threaten to kill the mayor because you don't like his opinions/work. Try to explain all your neighbors that that was okay, because "Tempers are gonna flare".
This is, by the way, an offense you can end in jail for, for good reasons.
>Go to your local town hall and threaten to kill the mayor because you don't like his opinions/work.
Have you ever lived in a small town? This is what we call Tuesday evening at the local bar. Until they start buying bullets people threatening to kill you are to murder as people telling threatening to fuck you are to rape.
People talk about killing or maiming politicians all the time and don't end up in jail. It's only when the threats are credible that there's a problem (In Poettering's case, having a bitcoin fund for a hitman certainly constitutes this).
All the BSD's have a "centralized" userspace, I wonder why they haven't recieved any flak and death threats.
This is what systemd essentially is, an attempt to have a standardised minimal base OS beyond the Linux kernel (again like the BSD's), I don't see how it's 'highly political', if anything it's practical, which in turn is why it has been widely accepted by distros and software which makes use of it's features, like DE's.
No, what BSD's have is the analogue of what in Linux land are called "coreutils".
The rest is usually code from external sources mantained inside the tree for consistency.
BSDs come as a system, Linux is a kernel. BSDs are more like Linux distributions, but every (base) part is part of the project. You get the whole thing from one team, vs. a (more or less) curated list of independent (GNU) projects.
I really don't think that these approaches are the same.
I don't see any relevancy for the whole reference to BSD communities either, though.
That's semantics. Linux may "just" be a kernel, but almost all distributions come with the same set of "curated" GNU utilities. With BSD, the only real difference is that the kernel and userland teams have significantly more overlap.
