> The minimum average points score of any given comment was about 2 points, meaning that all comments received atleast 1 upvote on average. This trend has been increasing until 2011 when it peaked at about 4.5 points. Since then, the average has trended downward, with a particularly large drop starting at 2014.
> Therefore, starting in 2014, both quantity and quality are on a downward trend.
The conclusion is unwarranted, because there are other changes in the system and access points. Most significantly, points are no longer displayed and the shift to mobile devices. This could affect voter's behaviors over time.
For example, people may be less inclined to vote when they do not see points (the numbers could trigger voting in some cases). Voting on mobile phones is also a pain as arrows are very small there, and a lot of mistakes could be made (clicking down arrow when intending to vote up).
When was the karma value of a post hidden? I can remember it happening but tried a few search phrases and couldn't track down the announcement and resulting discussion.
> If people are less inclined to upvote, then they would be less inclined to downvote as well, offseting it slightly.
That's not exactly true. Since more people can upvote than downvote, the threshold for downvote privileges is > 325 karma. So downvoting is reserved for those that frequently interact with the service in a positive manner. Downvoting could have had almost zero impact done to it due to the small set of people with that privilege.
As quantity increased, and newer less frequent users stopped upvoting, because there was no way to discern one's value in that interaction. Downvotes could have held at a similar frequency, because of it's smaller group. The decrease in upvoting could be accountable for a large portion.
Also, I rarely used a mobile device for interacting with HN, until 2-3 months ago, because the interactions are quite crappy (one of the reasons they mentioned for opening the API up.)
Edit: It's actually interesting, that the upvote/downvote ability wasn't considered impactful, since you mentioned it further down in the article.
> Edit: It's actually interesting, that the upvote/downvote ability wasn't considered impactful, since you mentioned it further down in the article.
In retrospect, I should have mentioned the downvote threshold. However, it wouldn't be helpful since I don't have access to the karma values of the upvoters/downvotes (e.g. are the majority of upvoters people who are under the karma threshold? are the majority of downvotes those at the karma threshold or far above?), so I wouldn't be able to make an accurate inference.
> Therefore, starting in 2014, both quantity and quality are on a downward trend.
The conclusion is unwarranted, because there are other changes in the system and access points. Most significantly, points are no longer displayed and the shift to mobile devices. This could affect voter's behaviors over time.
For example, people may be less inclined to vote when they do not see points (the numbers could trigger voting in some cases). Voting on mobile phones is also a pain as arrows are very small there, and a lot of mistakes could be made (clicking down arrow when intending to vote up).