I'm confused about why you would differentiate between vegetables and carbohydrates. That's like differentiating between a car and the engine within a car. Vegetables are mostly carbs and water.
"Carbs" in this context is referring to foods that have a high carbohydrate content, like potatoes, yams, bread, pasta, and to a lesser extent things like carrots, beets, parsnips etc. Foods to avoid if trying to keep carbohydrate intake below 20-50, as these diets typically require.
It doesn't refer to cruciferous/fibrous veggies, as well as things summer squash, even though they are almost entire carbs, because the carb content per serving in these foods is quite low - low enough that you can probably eat as much of them as you like and still be within the prescribed range.
I know it's only intended to refer to a particular subset of foods. It's just a personal pet peeve that people have this mindset and use this language and forget that the things that aren't "carbs" contain carbohydrates. It displays an ignorance on the topic.
Ya, well, when you're trying to eat fewer than 20 grams of carbohydrates a day, one becomes quite familiar with how many grams there are in broccoli. Sorry that my vagueness offended.
Not to belabour the point, but I disagree. People who "have this mindset" probably appreciate this distinction better than most. It's just a domain-specific shorthand use of the word "carb."
Vegetables are mostly fibers, which are mostly non-digestable carbs. Normal carbs get metabolized, fibers not. It's really a huge difference, especially wrt weight loss.
When people talk about avoiding carbs, they don't mean fibers.
Not really, no. There are some high carb veg like sugar beets or potatoes but most are like cucumbers where a plate full is about one gram. Carrots are kinda borderline about 10% carbs so 100 grams of carrots (which is quite a bit) is about 10 grams. Most are kinda like celery which is about one gram for an entire stalk.
My personal strategy is not counting but ranking and never eat something worse if I can eat something better. So I could roast some potatoes, but why not just buy carrots that are practically on the same shelf at the store?
Root vegetables are usually higher in carbs. For my diet, i stay away from them. I second the substitution is key to stay under your carb daily limits. Instead of mash potatoes, you can make it out of cauliflower. Lost 30 pounds, over a year with lots of cheat day/weeks.
Low carb diet does make a big difference losing weight but watching net calories makes a bigger difference. If you're 500 calories under the maintain level. You'll easily drop a pound a week. Combine with some light daily exercises and you get that close to 2.