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Do people want TTIP? Nope.

That's (sadly) (possibly) not true. I thought it would be scandalous if Europeans didn't want TTIP and they just ignored the people and continued negotiating. But then I found this chart [1] and in almost every country the majority is for a trade agreement. I don't know if the numbers are wrong, if people are uninformed or if they just don't care, but if the numbers are correct then it all is just democratic, the majority wins, whether I or you like it or not.

[1] http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/01/29/is-europe-on...



Those survey results show people who are "for a free trade and investment agreement between the EU and the USA" -- not those who are for this trade agreement; the objections to TTIP are arguably not about the freedom of trade and investment.


Exactly. How am I supposed to say whether I like it or not when I don't know what "it" is? Lets leave surprises for company pot luck lunches.

Would any elected official dare ask the same about the legislative process? Isn't a trade agreement that sets precedent as legislation the opposite of a participatory democracy? It just makes no sense. How can they have things like TPP and TTIP and still complain about the lack of involvement in politics by ordinary folks?


They support a free trade agreement, it doesn't specifically tells about TTIP that may not be a free trade agreement since anyway almost nobody knows what's in it.


In Finland at least this agreement and it's harmful effects are widely known, at least relatively when talking about pushing new laws.

And there have been numerous demonstrations against the agreement, and petitions calling to not let it pass. But they just keep pushing it.




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