I think the message everyone now accepts is: "there is no moat". It is plain stupid to think big models can be magically copy-protected - they are simply arrays of numbers and all components one need to create such arrays are free and well established. This is unlike the whole infrastructure, processes, social connections, hardware and storage, one need say to recreate a service like YouTube or Facebook. Large models are different - you don't need all of that - the future of LLMs is Open Source like Linux.
Taking the whole software/communication/hardware complexity into account, imagine, how many bugs and vulnerabilities may be present in such non-open-source systems? Based on the recent history where we know even 0-day phone exploits exist, how dangerous would it be if a vehicle (or most of them simultaneously) can become being controlled remotely?
Don't put all your eggs into one basket - what are some good free alternatives? I mean comparable "usefulness" including image understanding, voice interface, and general knowledge?
I’ve been loving having mistral-nemo on my laptop. Not comparable for images, voice, etc, however it is very nice when you’re away from the internet. For the cost of a couple gigabytes you get to keep a good amount of info at the ready. Very easy to run models these days, install Ollama and then do `ollama run mistral-nemo`.
Plus mistral-nemo in particular has a large context window, so you can cook up some shell scripts to throw a bunch of context into the buffer before your question. One I use a lot takes the name of a manpage and a question about it, then the LLM has the whole manpage to reference.
What's the difference when using your own anthropic key vs vanilla? Are you hitting limits with Claude in cursor that they key unlocks?
I ask cos I use it very liberally and haven't had any issues that have made me consider adding a key, except when I made it read my whole codebase on every request
If you're using ChatGPT actively, then surely you have heard of Gemini and Grok (no clue of how far Grok gets you nowadays, but Gemini should. Not sure how good the voice interface is).
I wouldn't use Grok. Google is a big company that has to be reasonably objective, but Elon seems to be the sort of guy who would pettily include jabs at people he doesn't like into the data.
Also he's a horrible human for many reasons and I'd prefer not to support him if I can avoid it. (You know it's bad when Google is ethical in comparison.)
According to the Wikipedia article, Google pulled out of Project Maven due to employee protests. Microsoft and Amazon also worked on Project Maven and Wikipedia doesn't mention them pulling out. So I think Google is more anti-Maven than Microsoft and Amazon.
That's his whole point. And that Elon is even more biased and actively purposefully horrible and unethical than that. By validly criticising Google, you're just reinforcing his point.
Didn't you read the part where he wrote "(You know it's bad when Google is ethical in comparison.)"?
Do you know of anyone at Google who overpaid billions of dollars for a popular widely used communication platform just to use it to publicly humiliate, deadname, misgender, and bully their own child in front of millions of people?
And do you actually think he has the self control not to inject his own prejudices into the LLM he made for that very purpose? Of course it's ingested the sewage of content from Twitter, which is FULL of his own jabs against people he doesn't like, including his own child. He gives his own tweets extra weight, so don't you think he does the same with training Grok?
>Elon Musk's transgender daughter, in first interview, says he berated her for being queer as a child.
In an exclusive interview, Vivian Jenna Wilson said her father’s recent statements, including that she is “not a girl,” inspired her to speak out: “I’m not just gonna let that slide.”
"Do you know of anyone at Google who overpaid billions of dollars for a communication platform just to use it to publicly humiliate, deadname, misgender, and bully their own child in front of millions of people?"
It got him the adviser role of the president, which in turn might save and make him billions.
But his main motivation might have been indeed to fight "the woke terror".
It's a delusional world you live in where you think I was making that argument.
So you have no problem with him abusing his kid in public, because child abuse is ok as long as you don't actually murder them?
Edit: So abusing your kid in public isn't evil? You're fine with that, as long as he doesn't kill them? Isn't it also evil for you to defend Musk's child abuse?
Again, you're missing the point that your valid criticisms of Google only reinforce his point that Musk is even worse.
(If you have showdead=true you can see the idiotic hateful comments in this thread from the kind of people Musk inspires by abusing his child in public. Do you agree with decremental?)
You're still purposefully ignoring and refusing to acknowledge my point that your valid criticism actually reinforces his point of how vile, unethical, and evil Elon Musk is.
You're also ignoring the point that another poster, a Google employee, wrote that Google pulled out of Project Maven due to employee protests, but Amazon and Microsoft didn't. And I'd bet you anything that Musk would gladly accept such evil government contracts for the right amount of money. He already does, in fact.
Please answer my question, if you're not afraid to: So abusing your kid in public isn't evil, public humiliation and verbal abuse is fine parenting, but you draw the line at murder?
So do you agree with the [flagged] [dead] comments of other idiotic hateful transphobic homophobic Musk fan-boys in this thread who are parroting and amplifying Musk's abuse against his own child?
Those [flagged] [dead] posts are incontrovertible proof that Musk's public abuse of his own child actually encourages other people to pile on and abuse her too, as well as many many other trans and LGBTQ people. And they don't stop at Musk's daughter, and the don't stop at verbal abuse: they physically assault and even rape trans people, because people like Musk encourage in incite them to hate and assault the same people he does, including but certainly not limited to his own daughter.
Go to your user use page at https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=llm_trw , then select showdead: true, then come back to this thread and read the [flagged] [dead] comments, then tell me if you agree with them and Musk, and that's whose side you want to support in this debate. Or just don't reply if you're too embarrassed and cowardly to admit it.
Do you really want to use an LLM pre-loaded with Musk's hatred and abuse? And are you actually naive enough to think he wouldn't do that, since he bought Twitter for the express purpose of shoving his opinions down everyone's throat?
Apart from you being a transphobe, there's also Musk's antisemitism, racism, censorship, and many other things, so this doesn't invalidate my main point at all.
You may as well call me a Hubbardphobe for not accepting the nonsense of body thetans and telepathic exorcism. Most people don't believe what you believe.
I don't agree that Musk is a racist. But I do agree with you about the censorship. All his talk of turning Twitter into a free speech platform was a load of hot air, like much of what he says.
I certainly agree with Yawrehto that you're a transphobic bigot. Whitewashing and carrying the water for Musk's public child abuse and malicious parenting, as well as his well documented racism, just goes to show what kind of a sociopath you and Musk really are.
But thanks for serving a purpose of the shining example and incontrovertible proof of exactly what kind of ignorant hateful pathetic people Musk fan-boys really are. You've perfectly and unwittingly illustrated and validated both my point and Yawrehto's point. Thanks for playing.
Boy, the transphobic bigots like you always crawl out from under their rocks as if on cue whenever there's a chance to suck up to Elon Musk and lick his boots.
Is it comparable with OpenAI’s and Anthropic’s models? I have a strong resistance towards using Musk‘s products nowadays, but maybe I should take a look over the fence.
In terms of general purpose usage and image understanding, I think Grok 2 is pretty good and roughly on par with ChatGPT 4o. Grok 2 will also look for online sources similar to ChatGPT search which is nice. I've occasionally had it report irrelevant results when doing so though --- for example when I was looking up the price of a car it once found some random webpage with the price in rupees even though I'm in the US.
For logical reasoning of course chain-of-thought models like the O1 family are better.
I don't know why each time on topics about Advanced Civilizations they mention Kardashev Scale, species of types I, II, etc. ? All those energy-centric speculative ideas are simply stupid. "Civilization" is modern concept and it's not isomorphic to "Intelligence" nor intelligence is a long-preserved property of any system per se. What we know so far is Nature allows to exist systems that can show some unusual (statistically speaking) properties, although connecting those to necessarily "interesting" information-processing formations is IMO wrong. Even AI (eq. AGI) is possibly a short-term phenomenon - who knows if "smart matter" or "smart energy" can ever be distinguishable from their "dark" pairs.
Better to stop absolutely all notifications. When I need to know if someone of my friends is asking something I can open a chat app and check. If something is urgent then just a phone call. The amount of distractions is enormous, thus disabling it by law might be more effective solution, otherwise intellectual decline/underdevelopment of the future society is predetermined.
Whilst I understand your point, I don't think banning notifications is actually a good step.
They are a symptom of something else. For group chat, its missing out on socialising, Nobody wants that. How do you allow kids to socialise via mobile phone is that actual question there.
For video based stuff, _what_ are they being exposed to? how tightly does the selection algorithm push the viewer into certain categories? Who is making that media, and why?
Given that UK had the BBC to "inform and entertain", why are we outsourcing the entertain and leaving the "inform" to people sponsored by shady companies and malicious actors?
What Pi 5 is good for? It doesn't look like a portable because of high power consumption, nor it's a desktop class system because of its weak compute and high price. Pi 3 or 4 is still a better choice for almost anything including retro gaming and Linux education.
Pi 5 is still good if you want a modern, supported device to run Linux and any Linux-y things with either a small quiet fan or a passive heatsink/case. 3D Printer control, retro gaming with more grunt than Pi 4, small 'micro' server, etc.
It's in a middle ground between Pi 4 (which is cheaper and can idle a tiny bit little lower) and N100 (which is nominally more expensive—varies greatly by region, but is faster with better IO and more compatibility, though integrating with GPIO-related stuff is more annoying). The CM5 makes more sense for a lot of use-case specific purchases though, like I upgraded my Home Assistant Yellow from CM4 to CM5 and the performance difference is noticeable.
Other manufacturers make much faster (and more efficient, though similarly-priced, accounting for performance) SBCs now, but the support side (e.g. I download an image and it runs 2, 3, 5, or 10 years from now) is much worse, unless you're used to hacking on Linux kernels and following device-specific forums to resolve your issues.
N100 is not more expensive. It’s about the same price.
8GB pi5 is $80
Power brick around $15
Decent cooled case $20
Heat sink $8
SD $15-20
And this is all excluding NVMe hat with NVMe drive, ie you’re stuck with absolutely miserable storage I/O.
Or you can N100, 8GB (replaceable and expandable RAM, 256GB NVMe (also replaceable) for $140.
Pi5 does not make any sense in this day and age, unless you specifically need GPIO for your tinkering.
You can save $30 by going with the 2GB pi5 option but that seems the wrong direction to go.
N100 is more than 50% better performance with similar or lower cost and better support for off the shelf ram and ssd.
I think GPs point is if you need more horsepower you might as well get a used small form factor, and if you care about the GPIO and other interfaces you might as well get a PI 3 or 4. I get what you're saying it's a computer it could do all sorts of stuff.
I think the stronger argument/usecase is it's a drop-in replacement for the pi4. So if you're already dedicated to that form factor...
For anyone building a little homelab or whatever, especially in the US where triple the (low) power consumption from 3 to 9W+ isn't a big deal, a used SFF/mini PC is a better value proposition. Especially if you want to add storage, 2.5 Gbps networking, etc.
But for people integrating a computer into a larger project (robotics, automation, controls, etc.), or buying a little 'IoT' device to tinker with, buying used gear that is often much larger and usually requires a large external power brick might be a turn-off.
The high power draw didn't turn out to be that much of an obstacle in the end. A strong enough step down regulator with a USB-C decoy board and it runs fine off any decent battery.
I was sceptical at first too, but in the end the Pi 4 now feels like the Pi 3B+ felt against the Pi 4 (and that was just a 30% perf boost, this is 3x). I.e. just hopelessly slow in comparison, and the few I've got will be relegated only to the least demanding projects. The Pi 5 is now the standard Pi.
It idles down to 2.7w. Obviously it's not a desktop class system still, even when consuming its max rated power draw. But it idles low enough to be a fantastic little local server for simple applications.
Low power consumption and good Linux support makes it a good home server for your OCI containers. Would also be a capable surf machine to complement my power hungry desktop machine.
Without sarcasm, I’ve never been able to understand how or why real people use Twitter or similar platforms. Do actual human users genuinely scroll through and read all that noise? What motivates someone to do that? Is it comparable to the TikTok trance, where users get hooked by a dopamine rush?
Just talking about my own usage, I follow lots of people in the tech space, indie hackers, AI researchers, etc. By checking Twitter from time to time I learn about new tools, libraries and models, check out cool stuff made by others, etc.
It's literally the same reason behind reading HN. A HN with a higher ground noise but much more real-time, interactive and orders of magnitude higher bandwidth.
You just need to curate things very hard so make sure you keep enough signal above the nose to be worth it.
Same here, tried following a few people in the field, half of the content I saw was still off-topic, memes or personal stuff.
Signal to noise on Bluesky is about as bad as on Twitter, I think it's just that the type of platform and the format are not conductive to good communication. It's the equivalent of panning for hours and hours to find a tiny bit of gold, it's just not worth the time you waste on it.
If you're prudent about who you follow it can be an enjoyable experience. Just make sure you only follow people you really want to hear from, and make sure your feed is set to 'following'.
They are really helpful to answer concrete questions, basically a replacement of manual web search and filtering, getting just exactly answers I was looking for. For example, one of my dialogue with chatgpt 4o was about boosting plant growth in a fish tank - you certainly can find a lot of web sites about it, but I simply described my aquatic environment and asked for a recipe - and the answers sound and well supported, a post dialogue double check of the sources help
That's the crucial point, though, you wouldn't have trusted it without checking the source after all. My experience with 4o is that 4 out of 5 answers I check are wildly incorrect or entirely made up, while with the rest, if I copy my prompt 1:1 into Google, I get the same correct answer pretty much verbatim in result #1. So I don't understand how so many people still see this as anything else but a waste of time, an intermediary step before going to an actual, credible source -- a step which in the best case is entirely unnecessary, in the worst case dangerously misleading. (From my non-representative survey among friends, the answer may be that barely anyone checks the validity of answers, and are simply unaware that they rely on answers from a system which, except for some lucky cases, gives them wrong ones.
reply