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Thomas Friedman: Amazon.you (1999) (nytimes.com)
101 points by cwan on April 21, 2011 | hide | past | favorite | 38 comments


It never ceases to amaze me how "easy" everything is for Tom Friedman. Especially given his complete lack of any real experience.

It was just a couple of months ago that he was talking about how "easy" it was to design a product in the US, prototype it in Taiwan, manufacture it in China, setup customer service in India, get a graphic designer off of 99designs, blah blah blah. (Come to think of it, he's been saying some variation of that for an entire decade...)

International business is easy! Scaling to Amazon levels is easy! (And yes, less of a challenge in 1999 than today, but still: not "easy"...)

How does this hack keep getting work? Bigger question: how many people have been led astray by this pied piper of the globalized/information age?


My favorite Friedman-ism is this one: "I had lunch with a group of professors at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, or HKUST, who told me that this year they will be offering some 50 full scholarships for graduate students in science and technology. Major U.S. universities are sharply cutting back."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/13/opinion/13friedman.html

50 graduate scholarships is roughly the equivalent of a smaller department at a US research university.


> How does this hack keep getting work?

He doesn't really get technology or what it takes to run a business. But it's not really surprising that a 3 time Pulitzer Prize winner would continue to get work as a journalist.


The message I get from his article, is not that "scaling to amazon levels is easy", but "scaling amazon size ideas down to a size where they are easier is possible".

Isn't that part of the startup culture? That simple scaled down approaches are not only credible alternatives to "big business" but are in many ways better alternatives.

Bigger question: how many people have been motivated to try something by this pied piper of the globalized/information age?


I think you're giving his analysis too much credit. His point wasn't so much that the field remains wide open to startups. It was that, in his estimation, Amazon had no sustainable competitive advantage precisely because the barriers to entry into its business were (ostensibly) very low.

This is a little like saying that anyone can beat Tiger Woods, because all you need to do is pick up a golf club and practice for 10,000 hours, and golf clubs are readily accessible. While nominally and theoretically true, it's also a drastic simplification of many, many factors that have gone into making Tiger as good as he is -- and that will keep him better than most of the competition for quite some time.

Access to resources is only one very small part of business strategy. The rest is what you make of those resources, and how the advantages compound when you're making smart use of them. On the flipside, the beauty of startups is that they can, and often must, use the resources in different ways.

Furthermore, he made the fundamental mistake of thinking that Amazon was just a traditional retailer, but on the web.


IIRC, Amazon took something like 6 years to turn a profit. Its success is built off the hubris of investors at the time. Their business model was to sell everything at a lost to build up the brand, than assume profits will come later. In hindsight I doubt it's an event that can be repeated.


I agree with you. I remember reading an article by Om Malik and Copland and decided then and there that I wanted to do a startup. Mind you before that I did not know anything about startups. Soon after I read TF's the world is flat and it jump started me. In the end everyone is right for saying he makes shit sound easy when it isn't, but as you say there is a bigger question.


He takes the same "it's easy" tack when explaining how people can green their homes. He then describes what he's done at his own home, which, he fails to mention, is a 12,000-square-foot mansion for which he bulldozed an existing house to build. He planted 200 trees on his property, installed geothermal heat, solar panels, etc. Sounds great. Most people can't blow $5 million on green energy trinkets around the house, however. Not that I have a problem with him choosing to outfit his house this way; he can spend his wife's fortune any way he wants. But he'd be well-advised to reduce his associated sanctimony when it comes to green energy.


I'm a bit embarrassed to post it, but this brief Wonkette satire of Friedman is hilarious: http://wonkette.com/411206/obama-golfs-with-dumb-tom-friedma...


This is not satire:

A wake-up call’s mother is unfolding. At the other end is a bell, which is telling us we have built a house at the foot of a volcano. The volcano is spewing lava, which says move your house. The road will be long and rocky, but it will trigger a shift before it kicks. We can capture some of it. IF the Middle East was a collection of gas stations, Saudi Arabia would be a station. Iran, Kuwait , Bahrain, Egypt, Libya, Iraq, and the United Arab Emirates would all be stations. Guys, here’s the deal. Don’t hassle the Jews. You are insulated from history. History is back. Fasten your seat belts. Don’t expect a joy ride because the lid is blowing off. The west turned a blind eye, but the report was prophetic, with key evidence. Societies are frozen in time. No one should have any illusions. Root for the return to history, but not in the middle.

http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-chait/84059/tom-friedmans-v...


I never realized this, but he reads like a very bizarre "Old Spice" ad.


"Everything is easy for the person who doesn't have to do it himself." And it is even easier for those looking at it from an adequate distance and who have no idea what is involved.


Try replacing "easy" with "easier" and it might make more sense.


What is easy is for his in-laws to turn their $4B fortune into $0, in a matter of a few years. Their assets were primarily in shopping malls which compete with Amazon.


Did they really loose their fortune and did TF have something to do with it?


In some ways he's right. He happened to pick a couple of poor examples, since Amazon turned out to be run by one of the most savvy founder/CEOs of the past several decades, and the company has managed to adroitly maneuver from one business to the next, leveraging existing resources to build into the next. It would have been difficult to predict which of the seemingly outrageously priced stocks in 1999 were going to stand the test of time. Most of them didn't, Amazon was one that did.

But, there have been numerous big Internet companies from the first boom/bust who have been displaced by smaller competitors. In fact, it's probably more common than the alternative.

So, was Friedman wrong? Yeah, about these two companies. But, if you're viewing it as an example, and you take a look at a few dozen other comparably valued tech companies of the same age during the same time period, I'm certain you'll find most of them are mere shadows of their former self or long-since defunct.


+1 - Amazon is the one left standing because they totally changed their business model from being a store to being a platform.

Plus, their stock is huge because of stuff like Kindle and AWS, not because of selling books.

If Amazon had kept doing what they had been doing, Friedman would have been right.

The only place he was wrong is not realizing Amazon is a great company with the ability to foresee and adapt.


Yes and no.

Amazon is not _a_ store it is _the_ store. Once you get Amazon Prime, retail is dead to you. My personal experience (and several colleagues) of course, but once someone gets hooked on Amazon great service, 2 day shipping, easy returns, etc, you just can't use retail or even another web store. They just _suck_ in comparison.

Amazon is fantastic at what they do, more so than any other company I can think of. Maybe Apple, but Amazon is _cheaper_ than the competition not 50% more expensive.

The platform is just a bonus. They found out a way to do infrastructure right and now they are even making money on what is normally "just" a cost center.


When I read this article, I chuckled at how much smarter and wiser I am than Tom Friedman. But you make a good point. If he would have picked almost any other internet company, he could have been pointing us to this article to say "I told you so". This is not to say his argument is right, but at least he's less wrong than on first inspection.


Looking at http://replay.web.archive.org/20071123051120/http://positive...:

1998 - 2001 Book store

2003 Redirect to porn-looking domain name

2005 - 2009 Self-(book)publishing site

2009 Content site or directory of links for dating

2011 Redirect to a MFA site

If the site had been sustainable, it would have to grow into a niche or grow in size, the latter which would become Amazon or the likes anyhow.


I find it amusing that that the current domain-squatter-template's tag line is "Without books there would be no history!"


How could Friedman not see that Mr. Brodlin's business could not possibly be sustainable at any kind of larger scale? His wife is mailing the books by hand! It may be a nice little family business, but to compare it with Amazon, even in 1999...


Friedman has not made a career out of being consistently correct.

I don't generally agree with Matt Taibbi, but he does a great job dismantling T.L.F. here:

http://www.nypress.com/article-19271-flat-n-all-that.html


This guy's writing ain't so hot, either. I'll leave it to the readers to find his bad analogies, parallelism-failures, jarring subject changes, etc.


Oh thanks for this, what a great article, I couldn't stop laughing reading it. The "graphs" part is the funniest part (and so true).


Keep in mind that at the time Friedman was writing this, his in-laws had a billion dollar empire of shopping malls. His dire predictions for investing in Amazon start looking quite self serving. His wife's family fortune hasn't fared nearly as well as Amazon since then...


Do you have a source?


http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2008/11/thomas-friedm...

... based on the bad news coming out of shopping-mall owner General Growth Properties [GGP], it is no wonder Friedman is feeling crankier than usual. That’s because the author’s wife, Ann (née Bucksbaum), is an heir to the General Growth fortune. In the past year, the couple—who live in an 11,400-square-foot mansion in Bethesda, Maryland—have watched helplessly as General Growth stock has fallen 99 percent, from a high of $51 to a recent 35 cents a share. The assorted Bucksbaum family trusts, once worth a combined $3.6 billion, are now worth less than $25 million.


I suspect a series of "Thomas Friedman, 12 years ago" looks back would generate a lot of yuks. Friedman offers a lot of goofy predictions, phrasings, and oversimplifications with an easy, unearned confidence.

But some of this is the fault of the form: NYT op-ed columnists have to spit out something at least mildly discussion-worthy and topical, fitting neatly into 800 words, with an authoritative tone befitting the Gray Lady, like clockwork multiple times a week. So all the columns can't be gems, or even fully-baked.

(We're now spoiled by blogs, which can vary in frequency, length, and tone with the topic matter, and speculate and self-correct via rapid iteration with readers and other correspondents.)

To Friedman's credit, he reported Positively-You's failure – despite the boost of NYT coverage – almost exactly a year later:

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/03/03/opinion/foreign-affairs-sa...

Though, the lessons he draws from the failure are a mixed bag, and mostly boil down to: they couldn't afford advertising once their free media wore off.


Don't forget that he is talking about "investing in Amazon.com" in 1999 a bad thing, not "Building an Amazon.com"


Help. I may need an intervention for my curiosity problem. Here's the whole story, found in this book: http://books.google.com/books?id=HmyqbzrlVpkC

Bezos's story resonated among the book-buying public, the investment community, and beyond. At its peak, the story was so compelling that he was Time magazine's 1999 "Person of the Year." Months before Bezos earned that particular accolade, however, Friedman detected a flaw in the story. On February 26. 1999. Friedman's column "Amazon.you," asked: What's so special about selling books over the Internet? He introduced Lyle Bowlin, a professor of small business at the University of Northern Iowa and founder of Positively-you.com, a bookselling Web site. Bowlin, his wife, and his daughter ran Positively-you out of their spare bedroom. This arrangement let Positively-you cut its overhead even further than Amazon—according lo Bowlin, down to about $150 a month—and thus to undercut Amazon's prices. Friedman's conclusion? "For about the cost of one share of Amazon.com, you can be Amazon.com."

Not surprisingly, Friedman's column was good for Bowlin's business. Within ten days, Positively-you's business had grown by a factor of about thirty. Bowlin moved its operations out of the spare bedroom and into the formal dining room. Friedman responded with a follow-up column, "KillingGoliath.com," in which he summarized Positively-you's success in a two-word reply directed at the skeptical readers who'd questioned "Amazon.you." No, not those two words. This was, after all, the op-ed page of the New York Times. Friedman's response was a fully capitalized "YOU'RE WRONG."

That's where Scott Rosenberg entered the story. Rosenberg, the managing editor of Salon.com, was one of the skeptical experts to whom Friedman had directed his reply. In "Amazon vs. the Ants," Rosenberg explained that Friedman had captured only half the logic of the online marketplace. That half, the low cost of getting started, certainly allowed hobbyists like Bowlin to launch commercial ventures. The other half, in Rosenberg's view, was what set Amazon apart from Positively-you. He cited two fatal flaws with Positively-you's business model. The first flaw stemmed from scalability. Positively-you's overhead was lower than Amazon's precisely because it was a smaller operation. As business grew, Bowlin would have to relocate yet again, likely to a warehouse for which he might actually have to pay rent. He would also eventually run out of unpaid family membeis and need to hire employees. These costs would drive his overhead up and narrow if not eliminate any cost advantage that he maintained over Amazon. The second flaw dealt with the challenges and the expense of generating traffic comparable to Amazon's. Rosenberg simply assumed that Bowlin couldn't rely upon the substantial free publicity that he received by appearing in Friedman's columns. Rosenberg's conclusion? "If I were Amazon's Jeff Bezos, I wouldn't be too worried."

Lyle Bowlin and Positively-you then proceeded to fall from public view for about a year. They reappeared March 3, 2000, in columns written by Friedman and by Rosenberg. Friedman's "Saga of an Online Pioneer" told of Bowlin's attempt to leverage his early publicity into a real business. He raised $90,000, took a leave from his teaching position, rented office space, hired employees—and went out of business. Friedman considered Positively-you's failure instructive. He cited a number of lessons that he had learned about e-commerce. The two most significant of them were the difficulty of scaling costs and the challenge of driving traffic to a Web site. Rosenberg's column basically said "I told you so," which, of course, he had.


It turns out this article has nothing to do with Amazon:

A random guy has an idea about how to take on the giant corporation. He fails when it turns out that ideas are much less important than execution.

Friedman was right for cheering the guy on and admonishing late 90's ecommerce in general. He just got the details wrong.


This error highlights a rather important point actually.

The migration of large chunks of commerce onto the web has hidden away a lot of the complexity of doing business, which can (as seen in this example) lead to massive errors of judgement due to ignorance. Nobody would imagine that owning a single bookcase stocked with books is equivalent to the operation of a brick and mortar bookstore. Yet here we see Friedman making the same error in comparing amazon with a one man operation.

In a sense they are comparable, and that's one of the things that makes the web so wonderful, it's possible for very low overhead business to exist on the web, and it's possible for them to look very professional. However, underneath they are as different as a home kitchen and a commercial restaurant line. Just because you can cook doesn't mean you can be a chef or run a restaurant. Just because you can pack, label, and ship boxes doesn't mean you can match the logistical capabilities of a company like Amazon.

Certainly many companies tried. Amazon built itself up quite rapidly with a heavy focus on logistics at scale and product fulfillment. A lot of companies mistakenly believed that you can get away with unorganized chaos and just putting together a bunch of guys with a bunch of boxes in a room and you'd get the same results. Those companies were very wrong, many of them have gone out of business.

Amazon, even going back to 1999, has several unique qualities which put it ahead of its competition, not least of which have been melding a high-tech web store on one end to an equally high-tech logistics and fulfillment process on the back end. If you look at a web business and you can't see what's going on with enough fidelity to tell a home maker's kitchen from a commercial restaurant kitchen then you really ought to avoid commenting on the subject.


He didn't make that error.

There are some industries, like restaurants, that are dominated by small-time entrepreneurs. As knowledge of web technology spread, Friedman was guessing that the internet would be one of these.


It almost reads like an article from The Onion.


In fairness its pretty easy to go back 12 years and pick apart a prediction. I've known some really bright guys who after using the web the first time said something like, "Not bad, but not sure why I'd use this over gopher, ftp, archie, etc...".


Looks like the site pointed to in that column is now owned by a domain squatter. I guess that Amazon had the last laugh...


So positively-you domain went under sometime before 2002.




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