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I can't tell if I can trust this site or not, because it looks like one of those fake news site created to generate ad clicks. But I guess pretty much all the local news site look like this now. Sad state of the web we are living through.

Also interesting to note that the lead photo for loneliness in this article makes it seem all sexy and desirable.




There's a link to the Nature paper in the first sentence, so this site is already doing better than 98% of local news outlets.


> Also interesting to note that the lead photo for depression in this article makes it seem all sexy and desirable.

Could it be that you personally find the model sexy and desirable?

There is nothing inherently attractive about a person sitting alone in an uncomfortable chair next to an empty couch. The model even has a closed posture and is slouching, which are a nonverbal messages that indicates anxiety. Their half dressed state also indicates a depressed state.


I hadn't noticed (because I always skip pictures in articles that don't look like data visualizations), but I went back to check, and the model looks very comfortable.

They are wearing a fashionable shirt that is off a shoulder and is longer than her pants. Her pants _are_ visible, so she is not half-dressed, she is just wearing pants that are much more useful for fashion than relaxing, which makes me think she has social activities planned. We also get a fairly large portion of the room in the shot, and it looks expensive and well-cleaned.

Again, I didn't notice this at all, but I do not think the poster is projecting at all, just reading into different cues.


Here is another angle https://unsplash.com/photos/GVSoj-FO5LM and here is a front shot https://www.facebook.com/Anthony.fotography/photos/398083274... where you can see she is not smiling. You can see she has no pants https://www.facebook.com/Anthony.fotography/photos/398085460... but is wearing boyshort panties or something similar.

Here are some shots of the same composition with another model https://unsplash.com/photos/PqIvg8mw-4U https://unsplash.com/photos/DJGg9tYrDLo.

Here is another angle of that other model https://www.facebook.com/Anthony.fotography/photos/418260795... where you can see she is staring at the wall with no smile on her face.

To me, those are women in "pyjamas" lounging in an empty apartment, lost in deep thoughts. The composition of the photo is cold, with hues of blue and the model is centered in the frame. They appear homesick or nostalgic. I doubt that the artist aimed to show comfort and happiness.

The only time I would wear such clothings (big warm socks, a pair of boyshorts and a long shirt) is when I am not expecting any company and when I'm not expecting to go outside. Going outside would require changing socks, putting pants on and wearing a shirt that is not transparent.

I agree that they are glamorous, but aren't big empty apartments the loneliest?


Beauty is subjective, but I'd bet that the majority finds the model pleasing to the eye. Generally, for subjective things, consensus is the true evaluation.


Given my (21m) loneliness, I find pretty much every young women sexy and desirable.

Not that I have a chance with any!


Hey, young fellow. Your chances are probably better than you think, if my experience is any indication, but your approach may be way off.

1) Start lifting weights. Helps boost your confidence and your T levels, making you more attractive.

2) If you do not yet practice the rudiments of grooming, do so. Shower every day, shave, comb your hair. Make sure your clothes are clean and you don't smell.

3) The key to engaging with women is: when you encounter a new one, always be kind to her and treat her with the basic amount of courtesy and respect due another human being but no more. Avoid fawning over her, no matter how cute or hot you find her. Keep it in the back of your brain that she's just a woman, just a human, and may be as messed up as you are if not more so. Hold the door open for her, help her load her groceries, or whatever -- then disengage. If you get a smile or thank you, savor it. A smile or thank you from a pretty girl is a tiny gift, and we accept gifts graciously and appreciatively without hoping for more.

It's kind of this weird tension. You can't give off "looking for a date" vibes. If a girl is to any extent cute she will know it, and she will be able to use that to control the interaction if you seem too desperate. The vibe to cultivate is basically pleasant, but somewhat aloof. Make her feel like she has to work to prove herself to you. If she's at all interested, she will put in the work. You've gotta do this with multiple women, keeping them in your friend circle while not giving off thar you want to get closer -- that is not until they signal they want the same (and they will in unambiguous terms!). And it may take years to get there. Anyone who tells you finding a good partner is quick or easy is selling something.


You make a jump from:

"When you encounter a stranger, be pleasant but aloof. Disengage."

To

"Keep women in your friends circle"

Without mentioning how to get from A to B. I mean, how to actually befriending them in the first place, which is probably one of the biggest hurdles and stumbling blocks for most people here who have the same problem.

I.e. Women who are single, available and are my friends are represented by the empty set.

Asking your non-single friends to introduce you to single friends doesn't accomplish anything, since they might talk about doing that, but it'll never happen (I've seen it multiple times)

That was the case even when I was going out regularly, before the pandemic... Since unfortunately most of my social interactions are in groups heavily biased towards male representation.

The only way around that, as I recognize... Is to get different hobbies. But it's not that simple to get yourself to start liking a new thing (and spend multiple hours every week on that!) If you have

1 - A job draining most of your energy

2 - already happily spending time on hobbies that you enjoy.

"Thankfully" the pandemic solved the gender bias problem regarding the friends that I regularly meet... Since now all in-person friend interaction over several months can be counted on your fingers

(Btw, now I'm in a LDR... Which is definitely not ideal, but at least helps a lot with loneliness)


Well, I can't over state how reassuring this sounds. My perspective is warped by social media, and even though I stopped using them (to a certain extent) A brief foray into someone's feed is enough to leave me depressed for the day.


That's another thing: SM is BS. The smiles, the #BestLife, the couples vacation posts all about how #blessed they are to have each other... all of those are masking deeply unfulfilled people and failing relationships about half the time, give or take. A lot of them are just straight up narcissism -- roleplaying at having everything to an audience.


It's a pretty garbagey site. Consider the past HN submissions from there:

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- Lonely people's brains are different due to excess of imaginary social contact

- Older patients 23% more likely to die if surgery occurs on surgeon's birthday

- Study on IQs of video gamers finds women outscore men, Android outscores iOS

- IQ and EQ: study finds gifted people also have higher emotional intelligence

- [flagged] Study links mindfulness and meditation to narcissism and “spiritual superiority”

- Less alcohol consumption is the main reason why young people are having less sex

- Study: Users initiate 89% of smartphone interactions, only 11% via notifications

- Biden's Secretary of State nominee is a part-time rock star with a Spotify page

- What Delaware license plates tell us about social status signalling

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This very marginal social science at best.




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